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Norweigian Cruise Lines close to filing for Bankruptcy protection

Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:00 am
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:00 am
CNBC

I see a future where Carnival buys Norwegian in bankruptcy and then controls the seas for all to revel in.

"In March, the company fully drew down an $875 million revolving credit facility and a separate $675 million revolving credit line. The latter matures on March 4, 2021.

In early March, as the virus spread rapidly among some cruise passengers, the State Department warned Americans against traveling by cruise ship. On March 14, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a no-sail order for cruise ships, extending it on April 9 until July 24."
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14798 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:01 am to
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I see a future where Carnival buys Norwegian in bankruptcy and then controls the seas for all to revel in.


What is Carnival going to use to buy Norwegian with, Monopoly money?
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
51647 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:02 am to
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What is Carnival going to use to buy Norwegian with, Monopoly money?


Dude, Carnival Cruise Lines - regardless of how trashy they are - has a shite ton of money.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:03 am to

Those women need comfort, Boys.

Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
30083 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:06 am to
She will face some stiff competition!

Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
17755 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:11 am to
Norweigian sucks.

Went on one of their ships a few years back, and it was the first and last time.

Food was terrible.

Entertainment was

For as much grief as Carnival gets on this board, they truly are the Galactic Empire of the cruise universe.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
48892 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:13 am to
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Dude, Carnival Cruise Lines - regardless of how trashy they are - has a shite ton of money.


They had to raise $6.4 billion (mostly debt) very recently and are in the same boat as Norwegian.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
51647 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:38 am to
I did not know that.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
15341 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:49 am to


I bet those are some nasty snatches.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:51 am to
NCL paid $20 million for a waterfront property values at 3-4 million last year. Bankruptcy doesnt surprise me during the downturn when you're making moves like that.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63754 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:53 am to
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see a future where Carnival buys Norwegian in bankruptcy and then controls the seas for all to be trashy in

Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41706 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:19 pm to
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I see a future where Carnival buys Norwegian in bankruptcy and then controls the seas for all to revel in.


Would still have RCL/Celebrity.

The CapEx for a cruise line and the need to spread costs over as many pax as possible, kinda creates the environment for a few mega-companies, anyways.

Carnival Corp and plc controls 47% of pax and Royal Caribbean Ltd controls 23%. Norwegian is at 12 and MSC is at 10.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
82475 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:42 pm to
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What is Carnival going to use to buy Norwegian with, Monopoly money?


Carnival doesn't have that high a debt load. They're not bringing in money but they're not paying for fuel, food, or labor.

They can borrow capital and buy Norwegian for pennies on the dollar.
Posted by Crusty
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
2780 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 1:23 pm to
2,3,1,4
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14798 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 4:51 pm to
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Dude, Carnival Cruise Lines - regardless of how trashy they are - has a shite ton of money.


Well they just added about $6 billion in debt last month having to pay over 11% interest (junk bonds) because their credit is so bad. They burned through nearly $13 billion in operating costs in 2019 and only have about $7 billion in cash. Where are they hiding all this money you speak of?
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
39015 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 5:00 pm to
sounds like they should ask Bermuda for assistance
Posted by theronswanson
House built with my hands
Member since Feb 2012
3271 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 5:41 pm to
Why do we care? They don’t even fly an American flag on their ships
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
31101 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 5:55 pm to
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Norweigian sucks. Went on one of their ships a few years back, and it was the first and last time. Food was terrible. Entertainment was


We did a Norwegian cruise last December instead of sailing with Royal like usual. Everything you said is the truth; we won't sail with them again.
Posted by OmniPundit
Florida
Member since Sep 2018
1440 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 6:46 pm to
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2,3,1,4


None, I say, that's NONE of the above.
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 6:48 pm
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