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North AL officer involved shooting during vehicle repossession attempt
Posted on 10/1/23 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 10/1/23 at 12:45 pm
WAFF
Body cam footage hasn't been released, but a neighbor's security cam video has. The guy had a flashlight on his gun, and that light clearly pointed towards the officers. Video is at the link in the news segment.
The family says that the repo man/tow truck driver had the wrong address for the repossession, and that they have the payments to show the vehicle was current. Of course, that doesn't change the fact that he came out of the home with a handgun when police were in his yard.
The biggest issue may wind up being that officers let bullets fly that ended up in a neighbor's home. It sounds like that neighbor is already setting up something:
In their statement the family was already hurling accusations, mainly centering on the fact that they haven't been shown video or talked to, though at the time of their statement it was less than 36 hours after the incident.
What does the OT make of this one?
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Man killed in Decatur officer involved shooting, family releases statement
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DECATUR, Ala. (WAFF) - A man was killed in an early morning officer-involved shooting on Friday, according to Decatur Police.
The shooting happened on Ryan Drive before 2 a.m. on Sept. 29. During the incident, a Decatur officer shot the man. The man, now identified as 39-year-old Stephen Perkins, was taken to Huntsville Hospital but did not survive. No officers were injured during the incident.
Decatur Police arrived on the scene initially after making contact with a tow truck driver who attempted to repossess a vehicle from the Perkins’ home on Ryan Drive SW. From the initial interaction, police said Perkins then pulled a handgun on the tow truck driver, who fled the scene.
From there officers made their way to the home along with the tow truck driver at the scene. The homeowner exited the residence armed with a handgun and threatened the tow truck driver. DPD said following this interaction they then ordered Perkins to drop the weapon, but that did not happen.
Perkins then allegedly turned the gun toward one of the officers at the scene. Police say the officer then discharged his duty weapon, striking the subject.
Body cam footage hasn't been released, but a neighbor's security cam video has. The guy had a flashlight on his gun, and that light clearly pointed towards the officers. Video is at the link in the news segment.
The family says that the repo man/tow truck driver had the wrong address for the repossession, and that they have the payments to show the vehicle was current. Of course, that doesn't change the fact that he came out of the home with a handgun when police were in his yard.
The biggest issue may wind up being that officers let bullets fly that ended up in a neighbor's home. It sounds like that neighbor is already setting up something:
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Justin Shepherd, a neighbor who lives across the street, said a bullet entered his home during the officer-involved shooting.
“I feel that this was reckless and sloppy,” he said. “For this many bullet holes to be in my home while I’m sleeping, I’m afraid to go to sleep at night knowing that people can shot my house up with immunity.”
In their statement the family was already hurling accusations, mainly centering on the fact that they haven't been shown video or talked to, though at the time of their statement it was less than 36 hours after the incident.
What does the OT make of this one?
This post was edited on 10/1/23 at 12:46 pm
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 12:47 pm to LegendInMyMind
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“I feel that this was reckless and sloppy,” he said. “For this many bullet holes to be in my home while I’m sleeping, I’m afraid to go to sleep at night knowing that people can shot my house up with immunity.”
Well your neighbor who caused the bullets to fly is dead so it probably won’t happen again.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 12:48 pm to LegendInMyMind
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The family says that the repo man/tow truck driver had the wrong address for the repossession, and that they have the payments to show the vehicle was current.
Yeah, ok
Posted on 10/1/23 at 12:53 pm to LegendInMyMind
Americans are running out of money
Biden is gonna make car repossessions illegal for certain voters
Biden is gonna make car repossessions illegal for certain voters
Posted on 10/1/23 at 12:53 pm to LegendInMyMind
This is why Dave Ramsey says don't finance your vehicles.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 12:54 pm to LegendInMyMind
When the cops show up you have to drop the weapon. If not you will get shot if it looks like you are pointing it at them. This gets repeated over and over across the country every day.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 12:55 pm to LegendInMyMind
If they went to the wrong home then frick them.
Illegally come to a man's home. Threaten him while pointing guns at him. And tell him to drop his weapon? frick government goons hope they all hang from a magnolia
Illegally come to a man's home. Threaten him while pointing guns at him. And tell him to drop his weapon? frick government goons hope they all hang from a magnolia
Posted on 10/1/23 at 12:55 pm to LegendInMyMind
Now tow truck driver can come collect without interference 
Profit!
Profit!
Posted on 10/1/23 at 12:56 pm to Beessnax
quote:so when the government shows up to your house for no reason at all. And tells you to surrender your weapons to you, you are going to comply huh? Glad you back over reaching goons.
When the cops show up you have to drop the weapon. If not you will get shot if it looks like you are pointing it at them. This gets repeated over and over across the country every day.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 12:56 pm to LegendInMyMind
Odds the vehicle was a Dodge Charger?
Posted on 10/1/23 at 12:57 pm to LegendInMyMind
Ok, for the same argument, let’s say the tow truck driver did have the wrong house.
The officers were dispatched to the house because the guy in the house pulled the gun on the tow truck driver. The officers aren’t gonna know the details of the repossession. They wouldn’t even have any access to that to know whether the address was right or not.
So, as a home owner, what would you actually think was gonna be the outcome of pulling the same firearm on the officers?
Like you were just gonna run them off and stand your ground? That was just painfully stupid on the home owners part.
The officers were dispatched to the house because the guy in the house pulled the gun on the tow truck driver. The officers aren’t gonna know the details of the repossession. They wouldn’t even have any access to that to know whether the address was right or not.
So, as a home owner, what would you actually think was gonna be the outcome of pulling the same firearm on the officers?
Like you were just gonna run them off and stand your ground? That was just painfully stupid on the home owners part.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 12:59 pm to Fat and Happy
Maybe do their due diligence and see that the tow truck driver was trespassing on this guys property and deserved to be run off
Posted on 10/1/23 at 1:02 pm to SuperSaint
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you are going to comply huh?
Yes David Koresh, I am going to comply with the cops if they show up without cause and then sue the frick out of them. That is why we have a legal system in this country.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 1:02 pm to SuperSaint
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Maybe do their due diligence and see that the tow truck driver was trespassing on this guys property and deserved to be run off
Per the law it isn't trespassing if the car is in a driveway with no fence or gate.
Whether the repossession was legit or not doesn't matter when you turn the situation into a standoff.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 1:18 pm to SuperSaint
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Maybe do their due diligence and see that the tow truck driver was trespassing on this guys property and deserved to be run off
Was the tow truck driver trespassing? Where's the proof? You're using your anti-cop (and possibly anti-tow) stance to kneejerk believe what the homeowner claims while simultaneously kneejerk disbelieving what the tow truck driver claimed.
I don't begrudge the homeowner for "defending" (being very generous with that term) against the tow truck driver initially. The problem is when he thought he was going to continue his Yosemite Sam routine against the cops.
Had the owner not over-reacted and started waving his gun at the cops, perhaps he could have shown them proof or his claims. At the very least, he could have had an opportunity to make his case. He didn't, instead he aimed his gun at them.
He's dead because of his own dumbassery. Period.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 1:31 pm to LegendInMyMind
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The family says that the repo man/tow truck driver had the wrong address for the repossession, and that they have the payments to show the vehicle was current.
They verify by VIN#, so this is a lie.
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From the initial interaction, police said Perkins then pulled a handgun on the tow truck driver, who fled the scene.
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Perkins then allegedly turned the gun toward one of the officers at the scene. Police say the officer then discharged his duty weapon, striking the subject.
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The homeowner exited the residence armed with a handgun and threatened the tow truck driver.
He F'd around and found out, dumbass.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 1:37 pm to demtigers73
This post was edited on 10/1/23 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 10/1/23 at 1:38 pm to SuperSaint
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If they went to the wrong home then frick them.
Illegally come to a man's home. Threaten him while pointing guns at him. And tell him to drop his weapon? frick government goons hope they all hang from a magnolia
I'll bet the dead guy thought just like you.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 1:43 pm to LegendInMyMind
Imagine the police leaving, or. maybe not showing up in the first place.
Tow truck driver tells police he was trying to snag a car in the middle of the night at a dudes house and the dude shoes up with a gun. Dude let me leave without harming me.
Police say, no harm no foul.
Next.
That would be a much better story.
Car needed to go back if he wasn't paying, but it did not need to play out like this.
Tow truck driver tells police he was trying to snag a car in the middle of the night at a dudes house and the dude shoes up with a gun. Dude let me leave without harming me.
Police say, no harm no foul.
Next.
That would be a much better story.
Car needed to go back if he wasn't paying, but it did not need to play out like this.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 1:53 pm to LegendInMyMind
quote:so you're on the record saying when the government shows up to your house with their goons for no good reason pointing guns your direction, that's the point you will surrender your firearms.
Per the law it isn't trespassing if the car is in a driveway with no fence or gate. Whether the repossession was legit or not doesn't matter when you turn the situation into a standoff.
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