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re: NOPD could start warning juveniles instead of arresting them
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:29 pm to tgrbaitn08
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:29 pm to tgrbaitn08
Why would Jerome get stopped when he's on his way to return his library books
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:29 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:quote:
simple assault
simple battery
misdemeanor theft or theft of goods
misdemeanor illegal possession of stolen things
But, I'm ok with them except for these 4. The first two are violent and the last two are them stealing other peoples' shite.
Truthfully, I agree. Crimes involving violence or theft though, that's not someone that should just be warned and back out on the street, or they are just going to hurt someone else or steal someone else's property.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:29 pm to Loungefly85
the time out instead of spanking crowd will love this new plan
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:29 pm to ihometiger
Play stupid games, win cool prizes
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:30 pm to AwesomeSauce
What about the law abiding general public being put at risk be leniency to these laws. There are more than a few on that list that could result in injury or death to innocent citizens in the wrong place at the wrong time.
But make me wear my seat belt or a helmet.
Fools
But make me wear my seat belt or a helmet.
Fools
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:31 pm to tgrbaitn08
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So say Jerome gets a warning on Tuesday night and then gets stopped again Wednesday night.....does he get another warning or does he get arrested?
According to the article, Jerome would get a court summons that requires a parent's signature if it's within a year and that's at the officer's discretion. So, technically, Jerome could commit one of these offenses and the parents not even know about it.
There's so much wrong with this reasoning, though.
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Aaron Clark-Rizzio, director of the Center for Children's Rights, said that the policy is aimed at "predominantly black boys" with behavior being handled with informal interventions that don't involve police "all the time."
"What we're seeing is for a specific group of children -- and in our experience it's children living in poor households -- the burden is almost exclusively on them," Clark-Rizzio said.
Is he insinuating that this policy may not be applicable to white juveniles?
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Most of the offenses that would qualify for a warning or summons instead of arrest are what Gassert described to the council committee as a normal part of teenage development -- testing boundaries and risk-taking. Current policy doesn't give police officers as much discretion with juvenile offenders as they do with adults.
Assault and battery should not be considered a normal part of teenage development.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:31 pm to ihometiger
This is the ultimate global goal for NOLA, similar to what Detroit has become.
It's part of the Agenda 21 and Sustainable City Global BS
LINK
Divide and Conquer/Order thru Chaos
It's part of the Agenda 21 and Sustainable City Global BS
LINK
Divide and Conquer/Order thru Chaos
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:32 pm to ThePenIsMightier
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Most of the offenses that would qualify for a warning or summons instead of arrest are what Gassert described to the council committee as a normal part of teenage development -- testing boundaries and risk-taking.
But, if we do away with the "boundaries"...
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:35 pm to BoogahEatah
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This is the ultimate global goal for NOLA, similar to what Detroit has become.
It's part of the Agenda 21 and Sustainable City Global BS
You give local New Orleans politicians too much credit. Hell, the mayoral front-runner can barely grasp the English language.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:36 pm to Y.A. Tittle
I'm sure all the young urban scholars will respect these warnings.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:37 pm to BoogahEatah
I thought the whole point of Mitch declaring NOLA a sanctuary city was that illegal Mexicans would be his eyes and ears on the streets so they could report crime. I guess our Mexican gumshoes are failing us.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:37 pm to ThePenIsMightier
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a normal part of teenage development -- testing boundaries and risk-taking.
WTF? how is law breaking considered an acceptable part of teenage development? diving off of a barge in the Intercoastal, staying out past curfew, rolling someone's house- those are acceptable ways to test boundaries and risk-take. Criminal behavior is just that- criminal. It shouldn't be considered "normal".
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:37 pm to Good Times
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There are more than a few on that list that could result in injury or death to innocent citizens in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Agreed, which is the negative impact laws like these will bring. If there is not any blowback for crossing a line there is no hindrance other than one's own self conscience. Throw in peer pressure and the fact that these are minors so they have not fully matured or developed the ability to fully access how a bad decision can effect others. Drag racing, speeding, running traffic lights, running stop signs, passing in a no passing zone, following too close, passing a stopped bus, going through a crosswalk... these are things that can get people killed. Hopefully officers are given a bit of leeway, because some of these are things that happen, you forget to signal, go a little over, etc. I just worry that it's not going to do anything but foster bad habits, and having driven around NOLA my fair share, that's not something that needs any help there.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:44 pm to ThePenIsMightier
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Assault and battery should not be considered a normal part of teenage development.
Plenty of fights in middle school and high school where a bully beat on a normal kid and all that happened was a suspension.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:45 pm to SamuelClemens
Well, by all means let's legalize minors committing battery and assault!
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:03 pm to AwesomeSauce
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So the more severe the crime they commit the more likely they are to commit more crime?
Yes, but don't worry. Mitch is going to let them get away with more crimes which will fix that.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:06 pm to TigersSEC2010
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The directive under consideration is part of an initiative to reduce racial disparities in the city's criminal justice system, aimed at reducing the number of juveniles being taken into custody at the New Orleans Juvenile Justice Center. More than 95 percent of the juvenile offenders booked at the facility are black, and research has shown that the more time they spend in a locked down environment, the more likely they are to return to jail later."
Yeah, Mitch.. It's the law's fault, not the perps.
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:09 pm to jrodLSUke
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Mitch is going to let them get away with more crimes which will fix that.
Mitch's plan to reduce crime: Remove Statues! Didn't work.
Mitch's new plan to reduce crime: It's not a crime if you make it legal!
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:10 pm to ihometiger
Total bullshite....an attempted rape is classified as "Simple assault" according to the NOPD.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:32 pm to TheCaterpillar
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research has shown that the more time they spend in a locked down environment, the more likely they are to return to jail later
quote:No shite? You mean bad people often continue to do bad things? And it's not like keeping this people out of jail will stop them from doing bad things in the future. The frick is that mindset?
This is actually true.
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