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re: Non-political point about the Mueller testimony

Posted on 7/25/19 at 11:40 am to
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 11:40 am to
I could have sworn there was a political board somewhere here.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17127 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 11:42 am to
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I didn’t watch much, but he looked and sounded old and confused
I think they had him drugged up some too. He'd come back from the scheduled breaks (like lunch and every couple hours) and for about 45 minutes or so he'd be pretty sharp, and fidgety. Then he would seem to physically fall off a cliff and start to look like the pathetic old souls ya see sitting around in a TV lounge at any nursing home, mouth agape, slackjawed, and hunched over, only semi alert.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31882 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 11:53 am to
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I could have sworn there was a political board somewhere here



...more and more, the admins are allowing political posts on the OT. I suspect this isn't coincidence.
Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1732 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:03 pm to
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The guy has been instructed to say nothing by the Justice department


This is part of it.

He's also bound by the rules creating and outlining his position.

He's not allowed to discuss any redacted materials or any other classified material.

He's not allowed to talk about cases that may be pending.

Think about the Republican's questions in regards to those things. They are insinuating a "deep state" targeting of Donald Trump and his campaign, because they know Mueller is duty-bound and legally bound from answering their questions in full or in most of the questions at all. This lends the air of Mueller "dodging" their questions, because he's doing his job as they knew he was required to do. Which is why Attorney General Barr began the investigation into the investigators.

You have a candidate and campaign that from reliable sources are said to be engaging with a hostile foreign government. You are duty-bound to investigate that. Sorry, Donald and Co. if you got stuff to hide should have thought about that before running and before meeting over 200 times with known Russian assets. Anyone attacking the origination of the investigation is purposely misleading the public.

The Special Council could not determine if Trump conspired. Great, let's move on to protecting our Country from the obvious holes in the system that made it a possibility. But the Republicans and Trump aren't wanting to shore up the holes and are purposefully leaving them open. That's unacceptable.

Full disclaimer: I don't care for this President. He's doing some good things (like tariffs), but good wrapped in racism isn't good for the Country. Politicizing race for temporary power usually leads to violence against the groups deemed 'other' down the line.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:03 pm to
An expert is a man wearing a suit fifty miles from his hometown.
I once worked with and Electrical Engineer, Adrian, whose degree was from University of California Berkeley. He told more BS.
He told about working for NASA on the Atlas Rocket program. His words, "There was an eight inch ball valve that would get so hot, the only thing that would cool it was a mixture of kerosene and oxygen." I thought, its no wonder so many exploded on the launching pad.

Posted by RebelWithACause
Jackson
Member since Nov 2010
1268 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:20 pm to
I watched some of it. I wonder if he even read the report with this name on it.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64384 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:24 pm to
The reason he sounded so befuddled yesterday is because he was asked to testify about an investigation he clearly did not lead and a report he clearly did not write. The dude was nothing more than a figurehead put in place to give the whole Russia Probe some semblance of legitimacy. And now even that is gone.
This post was edited on 7/25/19 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Steadyhands
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:24 pm to
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Every so often you get to hear from someone who is supposed to be an expert in their field, someone who has risen to the top and you expect to be dazzled with their depth of knowledge. I couldn't help but think yesterday watching Mueller: more often than not, you find yourself surprised at how little they know.


Is anyone really surprised by this? Is this not what we were all expecting to happen? It's what I expected.
Posted by Steadyhands
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Member since May 2016
6762 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:30 pm to
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You are duty-bound to investigate that. Sorry, Donald and Co. if you got stuff to hide should have thought about that before running and before meeting over 200 times with known Russian assets. Anyone attacking the origination of the investigation is purposely misleading the public.

The Special Council could not determine if Trump conspired. Great, let's move on to protecting our Country from the obvious holes in the system that made it a possibility. But the Republicans and Trump aren't wanting to shore up the holes and are purposefully leaving them open. That's unacceptable.

Full disclaimer: I don't care for this President. He's doing some good things (like tariffs), but good wrapped in racism isn't good for the Country. Politicizing race for temporary power usually leads to violence against the groups deemed 'other' down the line.


What in the actual frick are you making up here? So much bs in one post.
Posted by OneSaintsFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
1607 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:32 pm to
Go watch Mueller during the 9/11 hearings on You Tube. Clearly he is older but was instructed not to say much other than direct to the report. He came off totally different.
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10187 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:32 pm to
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I could have sworn there was a political board somewhere here

A non-political observation about supposed experts being empty suits? Thanks anyway, hall monitor
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64384 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:34 pm to
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Full disclaimer: I don't care for this President. He's doing some good things (like tariffs), but good wrapped in racism isn't good for the Country. Politicizing race for temporary power usually leads to violence against the groups deemed 'other' down the line.


Name one actual racist thing he's done.
Posted by StTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
2934 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:43 pm to
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Every so often you get to hear from someone who is supposed to be an expert in their field, someone who has risen to the top and you expect to be dazzled with their depth of knowledge. I couldn't help but think yesterday watching Mueller: more often than not, you find yourself surprised at how little they know.

Sometimes I wonder if anyone knows anything anymore.


I understand your take, but allow me to offer an alternative. In his field, and similar fields, your word is taken as gold and factual. And people will actually hold you to it. It's not like some people who can go to the Twitter and completely contradict what they said a few months ago and still feed it to the news/people.

In my field, if I say something to a client, whether they fully understood it or not, they will take it and run with it. If I say that, "this looks ok", they will submit that expense report. If I find something wrong with that report later and deny it, they will fire back, "no, you said it was ok" and I will be held to that, so instead I have to be like, "it looks ok, but I can not confirm that until I do a full review."

I took it as he was limiting the risk of something he said as being misconstrued or misinterpreted and in doing that you got a lot of "yes" "no" or "that is what I believe to be true"

I'm sorry but with the media, social media and the publics interaction with both, he has to cover himself too

Unfortunate that people took it as him not being up to the task
Posted by StTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
2934 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:48 pm to
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Name one actual racist thing he's done.


Literally telling American citizens to "go back to their country"

And don't say he didn't say that to someone directly, even the blindest could tell who that was directed to

I don't like any of those politicians policies. One is super hung up on Isreal and it seems she only ran for that reason, while others socialist policies would wreck the country, but that was pretty messed up
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112553 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:53 pm to
Literally Hitler
Posted by AlceeFortier
Member since Dec 2016
1795 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:55 pm to
it is easy to lie. no need for a sharp mind.
Posted by StTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
2934 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:55 pm to
I've noticed how much blonder his hair has seemed to gotten over the last 2.5 years
This post was edited on 7/25/19 at 12:56 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64384 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 1:13 pm to
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Literally telling American citizens to "go back to their country"


Wrong. He basically told them that if they don't like it here, and from their own words they obviously don't, then they're free to leave. Nothing "racist" about it unless you want to take it that way because to do so serves to verify your own political bias.

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 1:16 pm to
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Literally telling American citizens to "go back to their country"



How is that racist?
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42109 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 1:19 pm to
I think he is an accomplished member of the Justice Department. However, I think we saw that he was just a supposed “non-partisan” figurehead, used to try to prevent Trump from labeling this a political witch-hunt, and nothing more. He clearly did not write the special counsel’s report, nor was he clearly in firm control of the investigation.
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