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re: No tipping - one thing the Europeans have right

Posted on 9/7/26 at 12:05 am to
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38598 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 12:05 am to
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We found the service was hit or miss. At some restaurants it was great (usually the nicer ones) but most of the restaurants you were constantly having to try to get your waiters attention.
I mean, that’s basically how it works here, too. I’m not saying the tipping system is better, but service tends to scale with the price point in both places. You’re far more likely to struggle to get your server’s attention at Chili’s or Olive Garden than at a higher-end restaurant. Personally, I’ve had that problem about as often here as I have in Europe, with price making a similar difference in both. My main irritation with European restaurants is trying to get more than two ice cubes in my drink.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
43613 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 12:38 am to
It's becoming more prevalent over there . My Dutch friend now tell me to tip 10% at a nice restaurant and round up at other full service places. And many places, especially in tourist areas, now show at tip option on the CC terminal.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
21416 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 2:38 am to
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the most capitalist country in the world, also a no tipping


They cap ceo wages.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
14208 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 2:58 am to
I've been in Europe for the past 6 months. Spain, France, Latvia, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, Austria, Slovenia, and Croatia so far. In every country there have been cc terminals that allow to tip. Now in some of the Balkan cities they were less likely to show it on the machine or mention, "no service is included", but in every bigger city they're all mentioning it now once they know you're an American. We have ruined a good thing in Europe because of how we've let restaurant owners allow us to subsidize their employees for so long.

And it's getting worse. Budapest has a 15% service fee on all of their bills in pretty much every restaurant we went to and it shows 5% of that is for taxes. And even then some of the waiters will say oh if you want to leave something for me basically implying the other 10% doesn't go to them. I'm also seeing where the little terminal starts at 10% in some of these bigger cities whereas in the smaller places it starts at 5%.

All to say it's going to be normal to see minimum 10% tip in every city soon enough and it's bullshite. There's no reason to feel you have to tip. Tip if service is excellent which that's about 50/50 in Europe. And you know why? Because they're not going above and beyond for a tip as they already make a livable wage.
This post was edited on 9/7/26 at 3:19 am
Posted by BabysArmHoldingApple
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2016
1407 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 4:10 am to
Been in Italy for 2 weeks.

Only one place had tip option on cc machine. But it seems like something that is coming eventually everywhere.

As an aside, there are some fine beautiful women over here. Way skinnier and more feminine than some of the cows that we have in the US
Posted by VooDude
Member since Aug 2017
3763 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 4:51 am to
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It’s easy not to tip. Just say no or hit the ‘no tip’ button. Do it all the time.
Exactly, I look forward to the shite eating stares the baristas give me.

I just wish one had the balls to say something one of these days so I can use my line: “this ain’t a charity.”
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13600 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 5:31 am to
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The owner is the only one that can access where it shows what was added to the bill for internal gratuity. You won’t see it on an itemized bill.

Sounds like theft to me.

The customer can't see it...the staff can't see it...Hell, the owner could be keeping 80% of it and who would know.

We went to Chili's the other night because my 7 year old grandson wanted to eat there for his birthday. The minimum pre-calculated tip was 18%...I don't think you can ever get me to 18% at a Chili's.
Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
18144 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 6:01 am to
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It’s easy not to tip.

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Do it all the time.


Why am I not surprised?

Self-made, black male millionaire, do I have that right?
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
12170 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 6:31 am to
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I don't tip at Marcos when I pick up my pizza. We always do pick up. I don't tip at Jersey Mikes and other fast food places. I think that's a good system.


If I have to pay before I get my food I don’t tip.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
20274 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 6:37 am to
Now you get it.

You get why the local places are gonna do it no matter what.

So, don’t tip, you still gonna tip!!!
Posted by kjntgr
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
9031 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 6:46 am to
I tip a couple of bucks at places that someone has to clean your table, like Piccadilly.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
59015 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 6:49 am to
The waiters are also professionals who know the menu backwards and forwards. They don't give you a blank look when you ask them to recommend something. What I discover when I was in France was I was perfectly fine if I left the waiter order for me or pick the wine for me.

Of course, the prices are already higher too so you're paying for it
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14067 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 6:56 am to
Sounds like service in the US.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14067 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 6:57 am to
You're trying to equate tipping with capitalism? That's a complete load of crap.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14067 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 7:00 am to
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It’s to protect the servers and bar tenders

The owner could protect them by just paying them.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13600 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 7:08 am to
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So, don’t tip, you still gonna tip!!!

I tip for good service...I expect edible food...I temper my expectations based on where I'm going.

I have a feeling that these places you speak of...with a 70% non-tipping customer base...are not places I go to anyway. Eventually someone will tell the names of those places and I will for sure not go there.


Posted by InTheDetails
Real, USA
Member since Jul 2014
830 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 7:21 am to
Talk about ignorance smdh. Do you know they get paid an honest wage, therefore, tips aren’t necessary? They got paying livable wages right. It’s right there at your fingertips, but you’ve been conditioned to a point where you still can’t touch it.
Posted by InTheDetails
Real, USA
Member since Jul 2014
830 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 7:22 am to
It’s 100% a product of capitalism lol. Servers make $2.18 an hour.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38268 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 7:26 am to
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I just wish one had the balls to say something one of these days so I can use my line: “this ain’t a charity.”


Sick burn, bro. You’ll show her with that one.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
3126 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 8:00 am to
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Personally, I’ve had that problem about as often here as I have in Europe, with price making a similar difference in both. My main irritation with European restaurants is trying to get more than two ice cubes in my drink.


I don't eat at Chili's and Olive Garden here and I sure as hell didn't at the equivalent to one over there. The service there was way worse compared to here for the given price point.

The main problem with Europe was they would seat you and it seemed like an eternity before the server came to say hello and take your drink order. They would take your order and bring you your food and that was it. No refills, checking to see if you needed anything, or if your food was as expected. Once you finished your meal they were nowhere to be found to bring you your check.

One restaurant we were tired of waiting for our check that got up and ending up paying the manager before we left.

When it was good it was on par with what you get here but when it was bad it was worse than you would find here.
This post was edited on 9/7/26 at 8:02 am
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