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re: No Liquidity - Silicon Valley Bank meltdown sparks contagion fears

Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:05 am to
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:05 am to
Did they have some of their balance sheet invested in crypto?
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33415 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:09 am to
Is ESG any part of this collapse?
Posted by Clashmore Mike
Member since Oct 2014
1133 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:10 am to
With California Regulators closing the bank, and now the FDIC getting involved, it doesn't look good for current depositors who were not fast enough to get ALL of their money out........

Depending on what the FDIC (and other Feds) decide, and also how depositors structured their accounts, they may only get $250,000 (standard FDIC payout) per account.

Stay tuned.......
Posted by Sterling Archer
Member since Aug 2012
8384 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:23 am to
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Is ESG any part of this collapse?



Posted by Sterling Archer
Member since Aug 2012
8384 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:25 am to
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bond yields rising to offset the decrease in bond prices.


But they would still have to write down those assets resulting in a shitty balance sheet. It all seems like a big overreaction to me but I agree that it feels a bit fishy
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60694 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:27 am to
Call your local branch and say you want to pull out $25,000 in cash and see what happens
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14895 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:27 am to
Fiat is a scam
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:27 am to
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Bill Ackman, the billionaire hedge fund manager, called on the US government to step in and bail out Silicon Valley Bank.


Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
52540 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:37 am to
SVB was a high risk bank that offered loans to mostly VCs doing stupid Web3 projects that are all now going down in flames.

Silvergate (SI) bank one of the two major banks that are the major on/off ramp for cryto assets into real money has already closed its doors last week. Signature bank (SBNY) is next on the docket.

Just look at the major "stablecoin" operator Circle. Their USDC coin is supposedly backed by real dollars that was mostly stored at SVB, SI, and SBNY. Their printing of internet funny money was supposedly backed by bank accounts at these institutions. Which I am sure were not insured.

Good luck cashing out.

This post was edited on 3/10/23 at 11:39 am
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102755 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:38 am to
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Call your local branch and say you want to pull out $25,000 in cash and see what happens


My wife cashed in a CD from a local bank recently for 100k and got cash no problem
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
11350 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:39 am to
SVB is the 2nd largest US bank collapse ever.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
52540 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:42 am to
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Did they have some of their balance sheet invested in crypto?


Look up the definition of a lot, indirectly banked all of these projects. The major crypto venture firms Sequoia and Andreessen Horowitz (a16z) were banked there
This post was edited on 3/10/23 at 11:49 am
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33415 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:47 am to
Well, they invested $11.2B in lower income neighborhoods
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102755 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:49 am to
All those liberal tech millionaires should be happy about this. They’re about to lose their millions and be reimbursed 250k. Just think of the equity and wealth redistribution that creates
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4818 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:50 am to
Money printing press is already on a fedex custom critical truck to the valley.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41068 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:54 am to
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On Wednesday, Silicon Valley Bank said it would raise $2.25 billion following a $1.8 billion after-tax loss in various bets on securities.


I've never, ever been a fan of a bank making risky investment plays.

The general concept of lending money involves enough risk.

Like others have said, you have to wonder if this is crypto, and if it is... THAT might be the final straw where we start to see legit crypto regulation.

Side topic - how much does the FDIC keep in reserve for payouts? When would the FDIC itself need a bailout?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63786 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:56 am to
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But they would still have to write down those assets resulting in a shitty balance sheet. It all seems like a big overreaction to me but I agree that it feels a bit fishy


They owned a lot of MBSs at low interest rates. The Fed raising interest rates over the course of the past year made those MBSs less valuable. This would have been fine so long as their deposits remained stable. However, they recently sold a lot of those MBSs at substantial losses, which has spooked the market.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63786 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:00 pm to
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Like others have said, you have to wonder if this is crypto


From their most recent 10K:

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We currently have minimal exposure to cryptocurrency and digital assets through loans to, deposits from and investments in clients engaged in those industries.
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
4585 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:01 pm to
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Call your local branch and say you want to pull out $25,000 in cash and see what happens



My wife cashed in a CD from a local bank recently for 100k and got cash no problem



Your wife walked out of the bank with 100k cash?

If she did... Good thing she didn't pulled over
This post was edited on 3/10/23 at 12:03 pm
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
57982 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:02 pm to
Just need to find the right investor. I got just the guy...

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