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re: “Nicotine itself doesn’t cause cancer”
Posted on 7/26/25 at 3:45 am to Big Jim Slade
Posted on 7/26/25 at 3:45 am to Big Jim Slade
I am absolutely addicted to Zyn. The only time I don’t have one in during waking hours is when I am exercising. Never was a smoker but certainly got hooked on these little bastards. I have tried to quit but deep down I have just decided that I really don’t want to quit.
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:34 am to Gatorbait2008
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I thought the tobacco caused the cancer...though I think vapes cause cancer so I guess I'm wrong
It’s not the tobacco that’s the carcinogen, it’s all the chemicals that the cigarette companies put into the tobacco that is. Cigarettes and dip is loaded with added chemicals to get you hooked, and these chemicals kill.
Does that mean nicotine is good for you? No mot necessarily. It will have some vascular side effects; however, there are studies showing its positive benefits on focus and memory. Vanderbilt has been doing extensive research on this. Nicotine seems to be closer to caffeine in terms of its health implications, but it still can’t quite shake the stigma of its association with cigarettes
Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:25 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Isn’t nicotine, especially chronic use, very bad for your cardiovascular system?
Yes, it destroys the tunica intima, the layer that is in contact with your blood, and your body has to repair by using cholesterol to spackle the damage. So, it kills a huge percentage more that cancer, it’s basically how most smokers die…
Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:29 am to genuineLSUtiger
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I am absolutely addicted to Zyn. The only time I don’t have one in during waking hours is when I am exercising. Never was a smoker but certainly got hooked on these little bastards. I have tried to quit but deep down I have just decided that I really don’t want to quit.
Never a smoker but I chew the gum 24/7.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:37 am to Clark14
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This dude is all over the place with his opinions.
Why?
Nicotine is a nootropic. This isn’t new or controversial.
No one is saying go smoke cigarettes.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:40 am to CamdenTiger
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Yes, it destroys the tunica intima, the layer that is in contact with your blood, and your body has to repair by using cholesterol to spackle the damage. So, it kills a huge percentage more that cancer, it’s basically how most smokers die…
“Chronic use” in the doses smokers get, combined with everything else that comes with inhaling smoke. Sure.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:40 am to hawgfaninc
Nicotine has some medicinal uses. I'm not saying smoking- but nicotine.
I know this because I have narcolepsy and it is one of many things that can be somewhat helpful.
I used to smoke... don't anymore, but do still use nicotine.
I know this because I have narcolepsy and it is one of many things that can be somewhat helpful.
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Nicotine, particularly via patches, has been explored as a potential aid in managing narcolepsy symptoms, primarily excessive daytime sleepiness and cataplexy (sudden muscle weakness).
I used to smoke... don't anymore, but do still use nicotine.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:42 am to hawgfaninc
I’ll buy a couple of pouches of zyn if I’m going to be drinking because it will keep me from having an actual cigarette but once I am done drinking I have no craving whatsoever for nicotine.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:43 am to genuineLSUtiger
My dad used to chew Levi Garrett back in the day. I think it was under or around $2 a bag back then. Just looked it up and it’s $8 fricking dollars a bag now. In some states it’s double that. 
Posted on 7/26/25 at 6:03 am to Kafka
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I may not be recalling it correctly, but there is some crazy stat like, if you smoke a pack a day for a week, but took all that nicotine in one dose, it would kill you immediately
That could apply to nearly anything. If you drank a week’s worth of water all at once it would kill you.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 6:16 am to hawgfaninc
Just in time for my morning dip 
Posted on 7/26/25 at 6:30 am to hawgfaninc
I don't think anyone ever claimed nicotine causes cancer. It's the smoke from burning organic matter that causes that.
Nicotine might have negative affects on cardiovascular health, but I would say being fat is probably a greater risk than chewing nicotine gum or whatever.
Nicotine might have negative affects on cardiovascular health, but I would say being fat is probably a greater risk than chewing nicotine gum or whatever.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 6:33 am to Havoc
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have never been able to comprehend the pack a day thing. Damn. That’s like wake up and smoke and throughout the day until bedtime ffs. Obviously that’s awful even if it was something less harmful.
I’ve know people who smoked several packs a day. One guy literally lit his next cigarette with the one he just smoked
Posted on 7/26/25 at 6:55 am to AUJACK
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never cheated, looking ain't cheating
That ain't necessarily what Jesus said. It kinda depends on how you was looking at her.
Matt 5:27-2827 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery’; 28 but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart
Posted on 7/26/25 at 6:56 am to hawgfaninc
I used the patches to quit smoking in 2018 or 19. I can’t use nicotine now. It makes me nauseous.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 6:57 am to Clark14
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This dude is all over the place with his opinions.
In his book he openly admits he doesn’t believe in germ theory
He doesn’t believe that viruses cause people to get sick. And he’s the head of Health and Human Services for the federal government
Posted on 7/26/25 at 6:59 am to hawgfaninc
I think it’s all the pesticides used, not nicotine. My ancestors were farmers in Mississippi and the grew a small section of tobacco for their own use. They never got cancer and the tobacco was never treated for bugs chemically.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:04 am to VOLhalla
He's a damn nut.
IDC where he is politically, you could pour milk on him and he'd snap, crackle, and pop.
IDC where he is politically, you could pour milk on him and he'd snap, crackle, and pop.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:06 am to LSUSkip
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Actually,I don't know if it's the nicotine or some of the other chemicals in a cigarette, but you can definitely feel it.
I will say it is the chemicals they add to the Tobacco. My dad was a chronic smoker all his life and when they forced firesafe cigarettes on the market that is when he started a downward trend with a blood cancer first then a crazy Syndrome that burned his entire skin from the inside out. He passed away about 6 month later.
Also, how much glyphosate is used in tobacco production?
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 7:08 am
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