Next upcoming Aug marks the 77th anniversary since little boy and fat man were dropped

Come on, man.

Yes, lol japs were not surrendering, losses would have been catastrophic.

Your math is bad too.

ETA: I see. Kind of groggy this morning.

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Do you support Truman's decision?

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Yes. The Russians were going to get in on those gains if we didn’t end the war quickly and show them who was boss.

The Japanese were not close to surrender, even though they knew defeat was inevitable. The estimated combined casualties of an invasion of Japanese home islands ranges into the tens of millions. It would have been the bloodiest campaign in history and an absolute slog for the American GI's. People who know nothing of the Japanese psyche and beliefs of the time will point fingers at the US and try to shame them for using nuclear bombs on cities. The fact of the matter is that far more Japanese civilians and millions of Americans would have died if we hadn't dropped them.

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Do you support Truman's decision?

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NO!

I think he should have dropped them on Tokyo and Osaka.

THAT would have really gotten their attention.

While on this subject, I came across this website James Perloff while searching for something related to nuclear weapons (more on that later).

Some wacky stuff, not sure what to make of it.

Wild claim #1:

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In 1952, Major George Racey Jordan, a Lend-Lease expediter during the war, revealed that the Roosevelt-Truman administration had shipped the Soviet Union both the blueprints and materials for making the atomic bomb.

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Wild claim #2:

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As documented in Kubek’s book noted above, the Truman State Department went into overdrive helping put Mao Tse-tung and the communists into power in China, so much so that even Capitol Hill Democrats condemned the President for it, including young Congressman John F. Kennedy.2 Truman did not send over 30,000 American soldiers to their deaths in the Korean War in order to “fight Communism,” but to validate the UN as a “peacekeeper” and to set a permanent precedent for by-passing Congress’s Constitutional authority to declare war. A 33rd degree Freemason who was the 33rd U.S. President, Truman also served Zionism with servility, recognizing Israel within minutes of its declaration of statehood, after AIPAC founder Abraham Feinberg gave him $2 million in a suitcase, discussed in another post on this site.

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I would love to read these books and dig into this strange take on Truman, but their prices are too high a barrier to satisfy my curiosity.

As for the nuclear weapons material - its code name is Fogbank. This is what is known about it:
- its purpose in a nuclear weapon is classified
- the materials used in its fabrication are classified
- the fabrication method is classified
- it's so secret that the original recipe was lost, and had to be recreated at considerable expense.

It’s hard to believe that bombing massive civilian populations was the right answer but if you look at the casualties at any of the individual battles for tiny islands, the math sorta justifies it.

Okinawa had between 40-150k civilian casualties, and it’s nothing compared to the main islands.

Highly recommend recommend Dan Carlins podcast series on Japan from the 1830s to post WWII. I'm finishing it up now. He goes into detail on what led to dropping the bombs.

Dan Carlin Supernova in the East