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re: News reporting U-High kid fell overboard

Posted on 6/2/23 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by TheBoogeyman
Covington
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 1:44 pm to
The same reason you are in this thread commenting on everyone’s shite. Curiosity and wanting answers. You don’t like it? Then stay out of the thread. Stop acting like you are so much better than everyone else. No one wished bad things on the kid but human nature is to have answers and closure.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 1:50 pm to
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But then you read the story of the USS Indianapolis.


I would be much more worried about getting attacked in the open ocean than near land. Oceanic white tips are very aggressive and opportunistic feeders...IMO
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 1:56 pm to
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But then you read the story of the USS Indianapolis.


The torpedo explosions and blood from the wounded are variables that aren’t at play here
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 1:59 pm to
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Oceanic white tips are very aggressive and opportunistic feeders...IMO


Yeah and they are everywhere.

My only experience was on a crew boat one summer. Sharks followed the boat, if we fished they got on the line, they would swarm dumped garbage. You never could see them but if something hit the water there they were.

Also wondering if the kid might have hit his head, being silent, not trying to get back to the boat.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 2:18 pm to
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Also wondering if the kid might have hit his head, being silent, not trying to get back to the boat.




I haven't see good enough footage but I am wondering if the props were still turning and he got worried about being sucked in. People panic in the water though. I have seen it at the beach during the day. I also imagine it would be scary being next to that pirate ship...it must look huge when in the water.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 2:41 pm to
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The torpedo explosions and blood from the wounded are variables that aren’t at play here


What is at play here is it’s a known and reported fact that large predator fish follow large ships, and when something hits the water suddenly they all go rushing to see what it is.
This post was edited on 6/2/23 at 3:30 pm
Posted by bushwacker
youngsville
Member since Feb 2010
4010 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 2:44 pm to
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Oceanic white tips are very aggressive and opportunistic feeders...IMO


Yeah and they are everywhere.



i have fished many places across the world. dove all over the Caribbean. never seen an oceanic whitetip. sure wish i would!
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 2:51 pm to
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I hate the world we live in today. I hope the family has enough class not to be thinking about a lawsuit


Not from the family but someone is certainly thinking about it.

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"This was a booze cruise, and they were on their way back when this happened," the one student's mother said. "My son texted me when it happened, saying, ‘Cameron jumped off. They can’t find him.' They were out there until 2, 3 in the morning.

"It was terrible weather that night. The kids were cold, wet and traumatized. The girls were in bikinis and bathing suits. The guys were giving them their shirts. It was a bad time to bring drunk 18-year-olds out into waters near this island where there's nothing."

Quote from a Fox News article.
Posted by Kvothe
Member since Sep 2016
2096 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 2:59 pm to
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Yep, just climb right up.


Grab one of the tires?
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19463 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 3:14 pm to
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Interesting. Some posters here think sharks are timid creatures that would in no way compete with one another to grab a piece of perceived “food.”



Wouldn't you think at least one person on the boat would have seen or heard something had there been multiple sharks competing for him?

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Sad story all around, but the “shark theory” is my bet.


Is your theory that it happened after the video and after the boat was beyond the point of hearing anything where he went over? I just don't see that video as enough to say this is what happened
Posted by LSUZombie
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 3:28 pm to
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Wouldn't you think at least one person on the boat would have seen or heard something had there been multiple sharks competing for him?


Maybe but it also looks pretty dark and we lose sight of him pretty quickly in the brief video we have. Also factor in it’s a chaotic scene with a bunch of heavily intoxicated high school kids… they’re not being an eye witness to what happened isn’t surprising.

You look away and within moments he’s engulfed in darkness. From there who knows what happens but if a large bull or tiger grabbed him, that’s all she wrote.

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Is your theory that it happened after the video and after the boat was beyond the point of hearing anything where he went over?


Yeah. For sure. Granted all a guess but for the seconds we see him in the water he looks disoriented (panicked?) and swims away from the boat (why?)

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I just don't see that video as enough to say this is what happened


Agreed, but just collecting the info of what’s been said of that area and feels it’s as plausible as him drifting away and drowning.

I still don’t understand how a boat that size doesn’t have an actual protocol in case someone falls over.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19463 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 3:36 pm to
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Agreed, but just collecting the info of what’s been said of that area and feels it’s as plausible as him drifting away and drowning.


This I definitely agree with. I just don't see how people are so certain based on the video.

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Granted all a guess but for the seconds we see him in the water he looks disoriented (panicked?) and swims away from the boat (why?)


This would be the most convincing part of the video to me as far as the shark theory goes

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I still don’t understand how a boat that size doesn’t have an actual protocol in case someone falls over.


The action/inaction taken by the boat crew is very strange to me too
Posted by 427Nova
Member since Sep 2022
1722 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 3:37 pm to
Someone said he wasn’t dared but fox article says people try to stop him from jumping after he was dared. Who’s lying?
Posted by drunkenpunkin
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
7662 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 3:45 pm to
Probably the kids who dared him.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 3:52 pm to
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I hate the world we live in today. I hope the family has enough class not to be thinking about a lawsuit


I’m not the suing type but after hearing from multiple people on the boat regarding what happened, a civil suit is probably coming and seems needed if some of the first hand things I heard are true.

Safety protocols are needed for a reason. None of this will change his own culpability but that’s not the whole story. It’s not a good look when you see only one life saving device thrown into the water..
Posted by 427Nova
Member since Sep 2022
1722 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 3:58 pm to
There was a parent, who was on here, who said it.
This post was edited on 6/2/23 at 4:07 pm
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
95017 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 3:59 pm to
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his own culpability


I feel awful for that kids parents.


quote:

but that’s not the whole story.


But c’mon here…
Posted by LSUFAITHFUL
Member since Oct 2007
1089 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:02 pm to
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Wouldn't you think at least one person on the boat would have seen or heard something had there been multiple sharks competing for him?


I only saw one potential shark in the video. It surfaces very close to the side of boat for like half a second. You would have to be standing on the side of the boat looking straight down into the water to have seen what looked to be the potential shark. So the vast majority of the folks on the boat weren’t even in a position to have actually seen it when it surfaced. Even those on the side of the boat were looking out at the kid in the water not straight down. So I’m not surprised they didn’t see it.

Cameron definitely seemed to see it when it surfaced as he was looking in that direction.

I agree that you imagine a shark attack to be loud and disruptive. But here it appears to me that he is quietly pulled under not that he drifted out of sight. That’s what I see in the video.



This post was edited on 6/2/23 at 4:04 pm
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14707 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:06 pm to
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But c’mon here…


No safety briefing

No drop down or skiffs launched. Or even available that I’m aware of.

No visible crew on the different decks.

No life rings readily available

No crew getting/ throwing life vests. No one was in charge outside of the wheel house

The list goes on..

There’s also the question of the weather. And how many others boats scraped their plans that evening


Lawsuits aren’t always about money.

This post was edited on 6/2/23 at 4:08 pm
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
95017 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:08 pm to
Fair.

It’s just hard for me to get past his own decisions. 18 and drunk is no excuse.
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