re: New Trucks/Transmissions

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The law firms can pay for the keyword optimization to make sure that the first ten pages of any search are going to be doom and gloom.

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I hear you, and that's why I asked for personal opinions like yours, which I value more.

However, that internet chatter also means that not as many lawyers are paying for search optimization on the RAM transmission. There must not be as much money in it for them.

Had a 2018 F-150 with 5.0 and ten speed tranny. went out at 80k. 10k later timing chain and transfer case.

Traded it for a 2024 Sierra with 3.0 duramax. no issues yet.

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suddenly I am hearing about lifter problems due to DOD.

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nothing sudden here. this has been a problem since mid 2000s orv whatever. however, a simple device that turns off dod eliminates this issue.

OP, just buy the extended warranty from one of the online sellers of OEM warranties (NOT 3rd party) for less than $1k and don't worry about it. Flood Ford is the place to buy for Ford, I forget the GM dealer that sells them cheap.

FTR, Ford's implementation of the 10 speed has been a bit better statistically than GM's, but if there were truly mass problems with either, you would literally see one parked on the side of the road every day broken down due to the sheer number sold and the fact that trucks tend to rack up miles fast. Do you see dead Ford/GM trucks everywhere you go?

The GM engine lifter/cam issues do appear to be more common though.

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There is a lot bad chatter on the internet about the GM/Ford 10 speed trans

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For reasons I'm not sure of, the GM 10 speeds have held up a lot better with fewer issues than the Fords despite a lot of the same hardware. think it's related to programming. They did have issues, but most of them were ironed out fairly recently.

The 8 speed GMs were hot garbage until a year or two ago as well. They are okay now.

Ram's ZF is a great unit. But the new motors are still having some issues.

You can also get a Tundra and get engine and transmission problems.

I haven't seen a reliable, long-lived transmission since everything went to a computer shifting module. There's a reason the guys who work in the dealership service departments are called technicians these days. Everything is a computer-controlled electronic interface. It's gonna fail, and it's gonna fail sooner than it would have had it been a good, old fashioned mechanical shift design.

I would dearly LOVE to find a new pickup with a real manual transmission just so all the computer issues could be avoided.

I had a 2021 F150 with the 10 speed and it was jerky and never seemed right. I think that might’ve been the first few years of the jointly developed 10 speed.

I currently have a 2024 Silverado with the 10 speed and I have just over 11,000 miles. The transmission in this truck is 100x better than the experience I had with the Ford. I’m going to attribute that to having time to work out the kinks.

Had a friend with a 2021 Silverado and he had more problems than I had with mine.

Did you do it your self or have a shop? If shop how much did they charge?

Have you considered buying a 3/4 ton truck instead? The engines and transmissions across those lineups are more mature and proven. The gas engines are pretty straight forward and there’s less issues with the 10 speeds. Even the new Ram 2500 has a new 8 speed ZF now.

FWIW, I have a 2023 Ford Expedition and F-250 that have been flawless thus far and both have a different 10 speeds (10R80 vs. 10R140).

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Do you see dead Ford/GM trucks everywhere you go

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In the order of trucks I see on the side of the road from my approximately 40-50k miles a year:

1. Fords (more tilted to 3/4-1 tons)
2. Chevrolets/GMCs (the majority of 1/2 tons in USA Big 3)
3. Dodge/Ram (rare sightings)
4. Rarely see Toyotas and Nissans