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Posted on 9/25/18 at 7:57 am to elprez00
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You ever get the impression that they don’t really want to help us?
Help yourself instead of relying on a doctor to keep you alive. This is the typical attitude. Walks around with cokes, fried food, and moon pies all day and blames doctors for being unhealthy.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 7:59 am to elprez00
quote:Unfortunately more research is needed for the "get off your arse, exercise, eat right, and don't drink/take drugs" pill.
You ever get the impression that they don’t really want to help us?
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:08 am to Sidicous
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Unfortunately more research is needed for the "get off your arse, exercise, eat right, and don't drink/take drugs" pill.
Well not exactly where i was coming from. But take eggs for instance. As a kid in the 80s eggs were good. Then in the 90s eggs were bad. Now eggs are good again. Same with milk.
Cholesterols were bad, then good, now sort of good? Now suddenly everyone has a gluten allergy.
Just seems like medicine acts the the Facebook page of a Mandeville stay at home mom some times.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:13 am to elprez00
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Well not exactly where i was coming from. But take eggs for instance. As a kid in the 80s eggs were good. Then in the 90s eggs were bad. Now eggs are good again. Same with milk.
Cholesterols were bad, then good, now sort of good? Now suddenly everyone has a gluten allergy.
It's called science. The world use to be flat, the sun was the center of the universe, etc, etc. The truth is we still aren't sure what the optimal diet is.
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 8:13 am
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:16 am to Sidicous
Wow, Ok. Lots of misinformation in this thread. Genetic cholesterol issues can happen to anyone and any body type. There are plenty of thin people who exercise regularly who suffer from "hypolipidemia". I know, I am one. I have 3 stints in my heart, because I didn't get my cholesterol checked often enough in my 30's and 40's because I have always be very healthy and in good shape. I take the highest dose of Lipitor available, and it does help control my LDL or "bad cholesterol" number.
All these studies don't change the fact that if my cholesterol gets out of control again, I will get a blockage in my coronary arteries and die of a heart attack.
All these studies don't change the fact that if my cholesterol gets out of control again, I will get a blockage in my coronary arteries and die of a heart attack.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:16 am to AUCE05
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It is a bit reckless for the medical field to tell people medication is useful without data and detailed studies.
Fixed it for you.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:18 am to LSU$$$
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There are plenty of thin people who exercise regularly who suffer from "hypolipidemia". I know, I am one. I have 3 stints in my heart
You're the 3%, not the 97% of people that's lifestyle caused their health issues.
It's not that complicated. Of course there are SOME people that need it, but that number would be substantially less if people would put down the sodas and Popeyes and pick up the weights.
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All these studies don't change the fact that if my cholesterol gets out of control again, I will get a blockage in my coronary arteries and die of a heart attack
BREAKING: there are outliers in a millions of person data set
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:20 am to TejasHorn
With everything, you need to find the middle ground. One end are doctors making bank chucking pills instead of cures and the other end are conspiracy freaks thinking we are only kept just alive enough to pay taxes.
Listen to doctors/scientists who study this stuff without any skin in the game. Then formulate your own route. People have to understand they’re smart enough to do this. Prevent over treatment!
Listen to doctors/scientists who study this stuff without any skin in the game. Then formulate your own route. People have to understand they’re smart enough to do this. Prevent over treatment!
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:22 am to el Gaucho
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that they’ll lose their kickbacks and might not get to go on the drug cruise
I don’t know how many times this has to be posted for the board to understand, but physicians do not get kickbacks or trips anymore. Those days are long gone and every expense spent marketing, even how many pens you give to a physician is tightly tracked.
There are so many other industries in the USA that thrive on kickbacks, trips, gifts, etc but healthcare is not one.
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 8:53 am
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:22 am to elprez00
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Well not exactly where i was coming from. But take eggs for instance. As a kid in the 80s eggs were good. Then in the 90s eggs were bad. Now eggs are good again. Same with milk.
Cholesterols were bad, then good, now sort of good? Now suddenly everyone has a gluten allergy.
Just seems like medicine acts the the Facebook page of a Mandeville stay at home mom some times.
Your overall point was fine until the gluten allergy. Doctors/scientists/the medical profession has nothing to do with that. 99% of people with a "gluten allergy" or "gluten intolerance" are completely self-diagnosed. And wrong.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:23 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Actually, it's more about the genetic predisposition to the body not processing cholesterol.
There are tons of people who eat crap every day and are over weight, yet have perfectly good cholesterol numbers.
That's what I am trying to dispel. People are going to get it regardless of their weight, eating habits, or exercise routine. And statins are the current treatment for these issue.
There are tons of people who eat crap every day and are over weight, yet have perfectly good cholesterol numbers.
That's what I am trying to dispel. People are going to get it regardless of their weight, eating habits, or exercise routine. And statins are the current treatment for these issue.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:26 am to LSU$$$
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That's what I am trying to dispel. People are going to get it regardless of their weight, eating habits, or exercise routine. And statins are the current treatment for these issue.
I understand that. People would also be diabetic, but less of them weren't they addicted to sugar.
The point is you are the exception, not the rule in current society.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:28 am to PoppaD
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but physician do not get kickbacks or trips anymore
Is that why every doctor plays golf every day and drives a fancy car? Sounds like kickbacks to me
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:29 am to LSU$$$
What about the recently published studies linking long term statin use to later cognitive issues? I am willing to trade a few years off the end of my life for being able to remember my address and grandkids names.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:31 am to TejasHorn
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statins are pointless for most people
But extremely important for a doctor's bottom line.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:34 am to TejasHorn
I’m sure the same can be said about a lot of drugs, but someone sure makes a S-load of $$$ selling them!!!
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:41 am to TejasHorn
Not about statins but cholesterol.
Check out the Framingham study.
1 person had heart attack with cholesterol below 150.
25% off heart attacks with cholesterol between 150 and 200.
I work to keep mine below 150
Check out the Framingham study.
1 person had heart attack with cholesterol below 150.
25% off heart attacks with cholesterol between 150 and 200.
I work to keep mine below 150
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:42 am to TheHarahanian
Statins have nothing to do with a doctors bottom line. What we dont and do prescribe has nothing to do with my income. 90% of what i prescribe is generic medications. FYI I dont know a single doc in my town that plays golf everyday.
Genetics plays a huge roll in disease risk. Thats one risk factor you cant control. Thys why its important to modify what u can. Control cholesterol, BP, sugar, weight etc. to say 97% of the population is purey diet based is naive. It is important but not the only factor. ALL risk favtors should be controlled. Are statins perfect? No. But we have to work with what sound science we have now. If u changed treatment guidelines with every single study we would be stuck in the mud
Genetics plays a huge roll in disease risk. Thats one risk factor you cant control. Thys why its important to modify what u can. Control cholesterol, BP, sugar, weight etc. to say 97% of the population is purey diet based is naive. It is important but not the only factor. ALL risk favtors should be controlled. Are statins perfect? No. But we have to work with what sound science we have now. If u changed treatment guidelines with every single study we would be stuck in the mud
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:45 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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The point is you are the exception, not the rule in current society
and my point is over generalizing is lazy. By your thinking, all Asian people are good at math and bad at driving. I'm sure I could give you a few more examples........
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 8:49 am
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