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New study “statins are pointless for most people.”

Posted on 9/25/18 at 6:23 am
Posted by TejasHorn
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 6:23 am
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"No evidence exists to prove that having high levels of bad cholesterol causes heart disease, leading physicians have claimed" in the study, reports the Daily Mail. The Express likewise says the new study finds "no evidence that high levels of 'bad' cholesterol cause heart disease."


Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
80922 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 6:26 am to
Fat people just suck regardless of this study
Posted by Jizzy08
Member since Aug 2008
11230 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 6:27 am to
What about all the old studies that contradict this?

So if it’s “pointless for most people”, then at least for some people they prevent atherosclerotic plaques which cause heart attacks and limb ischemia.
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 6:29 am
Posted by el Gaucho
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 6:29 am to
I hear that if doctors don’t put somebody on an expensive medicine for something instead of recommending cures like weight loss and prayer that they’ll lose their kickbacks and might not get to go on the drug cruise
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 6:38 am to
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cures like weight loss and prayer



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like


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prayer



lolwut
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 6:42 am to
How about linking the actual paper.

You are quoting a reason.com article that in turn quotes Daily Mail about an article in Expert Review of Clinical Pharmacology, not exactly a high impact factor journal.

There is probably a good reason this was published there and not a meaningful journal.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31916 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 6:47 am to
Atheist alert!
Atheist alert!
Atheist alert!





I kid;)
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 6:48 am to
I’m sure you prefer the journal “Kickbacks Today”
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 6:48 am to
What’s dangerous is these bullshite studies that people validate without fricking thinking of merits.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 6:50 am to
How do you know what is a bullshite study and what isn’t?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68322 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 6:56 am to
Stations lower inflammation which is a likely cause of heart disease.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 7:09 am to
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How do you know what is a bullshite study and what isn’t?


When you have plenty of scientists do more studies, actively try to disprove it, and come up empty-handed.

The problem is that many times they don't really try that hard if they believe the initial result, but that's a different topic.
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 7:10 am
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 7:16 am to
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What’s dangerous is these bullshite studies that people validate without fricking thinking of merits.


Yeah. I don’t know much about his particular journal but there are time of these open access pay for publication journals that will publish any BS study as long as you pay the processing and publication fees. It’s hard to weed out what’s legit and what isn’t.


But, if a well done practice changing study was done, it would have been published in a much better journal
Posted by Boston911
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2013
1953 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 7:24 am to
A cardio once told me that if they really worked you would get them as a kid and there would be no more coronary blockages, he did qualify that statement that in a very specific subset of pts, that there is evidence that they provide some benefit but it’s not a end all/do all
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42570 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 7:28 am to
It is a bit reckless for the interwebz to tell people medication is useless without data and detailed studies.
Posted by Martini
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Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 7:33 am to
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I hear that if doctors don’t put somebody on an expensive medicine for something instead of recommending cures like weight loss and prayer that they’ll lose their kickbacks and might not get to go on the drug cruise



They cost about ten bucks a month.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 7:41 am to
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They cost about ten bucks a month.


No they don't, that's what you pay for them. All you fatties are getting them subsidized by insurance companies costing healthy people more money.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32557 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 7:42 am to
Heart disease is genetic. Doctors don't want to say it en masse, but it is true.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 7:47 am to
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Heart disease is genetic. Doctors don't want to say it en masse, but it is true.


Partly, but I can guarantee you there'd be less of it if half the population wasn't pushing 3 bills.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 7:49 am to
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Heart disease is genetic

This. Most people get heart disease because they wear genes instead of running shorts
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