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re: New study on monkeys using stone tools raises questions about evolution

Posted on 3/12/23 at 10:31 am to
Posted by mattz1122
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 10:31 am to
The earth is 6000 years old
Posted by BHM
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 10:35 am to
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Why haven’t they “evolved” to making better tools?




Something something white man.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 10:37 am to
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Because these stone tools were most likely used and made by monkeys and not early humans as suggested. Many of the evolutionary evidence was based on these tools. So if these tools were not used by Humans, then it’s a false narrative.


Those monkeys are smarter than you.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 10:40 am to
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Why are they still monkeys?
because they hold the gun sideways
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 10:40 am to
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seems like Darwinian evolution has been under a lot of criticisms over the past several years. Its good because it should be challenged as much as possible.

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Why?


Because that’s how science works. If you don’t question the science then believing in it is absolutely no different than having faith in a religious concept.
Posted by OlGrandad
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 10:41 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 10:41 am to
You don't believe the 100th monkey effect?
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 10:43 am to
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Because that’s how science works. If you don’t question the science then believing in it is absolutely no different than having faith in a religious concept.
PureBlood
Posted by jclem11
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 10:47 am to
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Its good because it should be challenged as much as possible.


Because God did it is a much more plausible explanation than small changes over millions of years?
Posted by sabbertooth
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 10:53 am to
The real issue in evolution isn't the use of a primitive tool. Some birds use primitive tools also. The real issue is progressing these tools to the succeeding levels of refinement. I don’t think monkeys have done that.
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 10:57 am
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 11:13 am to
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The real issue in evolution isn't the use of a primitive tool. Some birds use primitive tools also. The real issue is progressing these tools to the succeeding levels of refinement. I don’t think monkeys have done that.


OP was able to start this thread, so there is hope.
Posted by OweO
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 11:22 am to
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Why do you say that?


You think all ideas should be taken as a matter of fact?
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 11:29 am to
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So the monkeys are making the same tools that they made many years ago. Why haven’t they “evolved” to making better tools?


The actual journal article is linked in the article from The Hill that the OP posted.

The researchers are saying that when these macaques use a rock to crack open a nut, the rock fractures creating stone flakes. These flakes are unintentionally made but resemble stone flakes that have been attributed to intentionally made, early human stone tools. They are saying it’s possible some of the stuff anthropologist have attributed to having been intentionally made by early humans were not made by humans at all, but other primates.

I’m not sure this really challenges evolution all that much, other than rightly calling into question some of our guesses when it comes to archeology and anthropology. The key thing is that stone flaking probably did start unintentionally, but humans took the next step and used the stone flakes as tools.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 11:31 am to
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Because these stone tools were most likely used and made by monkeys and not early humans as suggested.




Primitive humans literally still use these tools
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 11:32 am to
Those monkeys ain't got shite on these baws:


Posted by Sus-Scrofa
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 11:34 am to
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The devil planted dinosaur bones in the ground to trick us


I think if God and the creation story is real, it’s probably simply that he created the world in the same form it would take if created naturally.

Just like he created Adam as a grown arse man. I doubt he formed Adam in an adult body, but with baby teeth.

As to the why would he do that? Because God created us with brains and the ability to figure out this world and make progress. Science has to make sense, and that requires a planet created through a natural process.
Posted by Northwestern tiger
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 11:34 am to
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Those monkeys are smarter than you

I feel like everyone who raises questions about the THEORY of evolution gets disparaged; in a way it’s similar to the woke tranny ideology.
Posted by Bonghole
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 11:40 am to
Pastor Jeff destroys Young Sheldon and Charles Darwin:

LINK

Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 11:42 am to
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Its good because it should be challenged as much as possible. Why do you say that?


Be a use identified theories should always be challenged rigorously. If still found as solid, unassailable ideas after that they become laws.
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 11:46 am to
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So the monkeys are making the same tools that they made many years ago. Why haven’t they “evolved” to making better tools?


Because they haven’t needed to.

Evolution isn’t a progression to a “better.”
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