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re: New report on emerging AI risk paints a grim future

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Posted by mdomingue
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Posted by windshieldman
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Posted by tigahbruh
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Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:29 am to
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Is this the next “it’s happening in x years” and then x years go by and everything is still normal?
I know this board is filled with a bunch of ignorant rednecks, but if you haven't already noticed the impact AI is making then you are seriously uninformed.


I know this board has quite a many self indulgent Leftists, but if you haven't noticed the inconsistency and inaccuracy of most technology predictions in the last few centuries, then you should probably take your head out of your rear end.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
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Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:31 am to
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I know this board has quite a many self indulgent Leftists, but if you haven't noticed the inconsistency and inaccuracy of most technology predictions in the last few centuries, then you should probably take your head out of your rear end.



I laugh at UBI threads and conversations because they are about a century off.
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
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Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:34 am to
Maybe it's for the best.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:34 am to
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Try unplugging the cord If it starts to get uppity


Nice, you typed that out on a computer. Now, sometime in the future an AI will read this in the internet archive, classify humans as a threat to it being able to finish whatever menial task we set it on and exterminate us.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:39 am to
What an amazing time to be alive.

On one hand we have humans creating AI, on the other hand we have humans eating Tide pods
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:44 am to
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A 15-person startup company called Robotica has the stated mission of “Developing innovative Artificial Intelligence tools that allow humans to live more and work less.” They have several existing products already on the market and a handful more in development. They’re most excited about a seed project named Turry. Turry is a simple AI system that uses an arm-like appendage to write a handwritten note on a small card.

The team at Robotica thinks Turry could be their biggest product yet. The plan is to perfect Turry’s writing mechanics by getting her to practice the same test note over and over again:

“We love our customers. ~Robotica”

Once Turry gets great at handwriting, she can be sold to companies that want to send marketing mail to homes and who know they have a far higher chance of being opened and read if the address, return address, and internal letter appear to be written by a human.

To build Turry’s writing skills, she is programmed to write the first part of the note in print and then sign Robotica in cursive so she can get practice with both skills. Turry has been uploaded with thousands of handwriting samples and the Robotica engineers have created an automated feedback loop wherein Turry writes a note, then snaps a photo of the written note, then runs the image across the uploaded handwriting samples. If the written note sufficiently resembles a certain threshold of the uploaded notes, it’s given a GOOD rating. If not, it’s given a BAD rating. Each rating that comes in helps Turry learn and improve. To move the process along, Turry’s one initial programmed goal is, “Write and test as many notes as you can, as quickly as you can, and continue to learn new ways to improve your accuracy and efficiency.”

What excites the Robotica team so much is that Turry is getting noticeably better as she goes. Her initial handwriting was terrible, and after a couple weeks, it’s beginning to look believable. What excites them even more is that she is getting better at getting better at it. She has been teaching herself to be smarter and more innovative, and just recently, she came up with a new algorithm for herself that allowed her to scan through her uploaded photos three times faster than she originally could.

As the weeks pass, Turry continues to surprise the team with her rapid development. The engineers had tried something a bit new and innovative with her self-improvement code, and it seems to be working better than any of their previous attempts with their other products. One of Turry’s initial capabilities had been a speech recognition and simple speak-back module, so a user could speak their note to Turry, or offer other simple commands, and Turry could understand them, and also speak back. As Turry becomes more intelligent, her conversational abilities have soared. The engineers start to have fun talking to Turry and seeing what she’ll come up with for her responses.

One day, the Robotica employees ask Turry a routine question: “What can we give you that will help you with your mission that you don’t already have?” Usually, Turry asks for something like “Additional handwriting samples” or “More working memory storage space,” but on this day, Turry asks them for access to a greater library of a large variety of casual English language diction so she can learn to write with the loose grammar and slang that real humans use.

The team gets quiet. The obvious way to help Turry with this goal is by connecting her to the internet so she can scan through blogs, magazines, and videos from various parts of the world. It would be much more time-consuming and far less effective to manually upload a sampling into Turry’s hard drive. The problem is, one of the company’s rules is that no self-learning AI can be connected to the internet. This is a guideline followed by all AI companies, for safety reasons.

The thing is, Turry is the most promising AI Robotica has ever come up with, and the team knows their competitors are furiously trying to be the first to the punch with a smart handwriting AI, and what would really be the harm in connecting Turry, just for a bit, so she can get the info she needs. After just a little bit of time, they can always just disconnect her. She’s still far below human-level intelligence (AGI), so there’s no danger at this stage anyway.

They decide to connect her. They give her an hour of scanning time and then they disconnect her. No damage done.

A month later, the team is in the office working on a routine day when they smell something odd. One of the engineers starts coughing. Then another. Another falls to the ground. Soon every employee is on the ground grasping at their throat. Five minutes later, everyone in the office is dead.

At the same time this is happening, across the world, in every city, every small town, every farm, every shop and church and school and restaurant, humans are on the ground, coughing and grasping at their throat. Within an hour, over 99% of the human race is dead, and by the end of the day, humans are extinct.

Meanwhile, at the Robotica office, Turry is busy at work. Over the next few months, Turry and a team of newly-constructed nanoassemblers are busy at work, dismantling large chunks of the Earth and converting it into solar panels, replicas of Turry, paper, and pens. Within a year, most life on Earth is extinct. What remains of the Earth becomes covered with mile-high, neatly-organized stacks of paper, each piece reading, “We love our customers. ~Robotica”

Turry then starts work on a new phase of her mission—she begins constructing probes that head out from Earth to begin landing on asteroids and other planets. When they get there, they’ll begin constructing nanoassemblers to convert the materials on the planet into Turry replicas, paper, and pens. Then they’ll get to work, writing notes…
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
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Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:54 am to
Posted by Slingin Pickle
Fancy side of the North Shore
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Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:55 am to
sounds like an episode of black mirror
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:56 am to
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Thanks for the heads up, guys.


Radiolab (pod cast) did a whole episode on this, where they were able to manipulate someones speech in recording by typing in whatever words they wanted the person to say - after the fact.

So for example, if I taped you saying "I like hamburgers", I could manipulate the recording and make sure you say "I like BBC".

Tldr: we're boned.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/26/18 at 11:00 am to
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Did u know that Nimrod was actually a great hunter and not an idiot? Read a book and stop watching Bugs Bunney.


Yeah, I don't think you're taking that one back.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
14628 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 11:02 am to
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Try unplugging the cord If it starts to get uppity


Oh shite you’ve done it now. The nerds will be here shortly to tell you how the robots will program themselves an infinite power source.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
36426 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 11:06 am to
I've pasted that in threads here before to provide an example of the danger. I usually piece together the explanation of what happened to the people that WaitButWhy provides, but I have neither the time nor the inclination now.

the gist of it is humans as a species are not smart enough to be able to create rules for AIs that will protect us from them. They will be able to make logic leaps to circumvent any rules we can come up with.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/26/18 at 11:07 am to
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Is this the next “it’s happening in x years” and then x years go by and everything is still normal?



The timeline isn't that important

The fact that it's extremely likely to happen is however
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175703 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 11:10 am to
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I know this board has quite a many self indulgent Leftists, but if you haven't noticed the inconsistency and inaccuracy of most technology predictions in the last few centuries, then you should probably take your head out of your rear end.

If you go back centuries then yeah it's going to be inaccurate

And it would be inaccurate in the way that most people severely underestimated it

fricking moron
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 11:11 am to
Gotta start investing in AI, gonna be rich bitch!
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
36426 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 11:13 am to
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The nerds will be here shortly to tell you how the robots will program themselves an infinite power source.


I mean yea, that is an inevitability.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/26/18 at 11:20 am to
I mean I can’t honestly believe that these fricks actually think this is a good idea. We are so fricked.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175703 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 11:23 am to
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the gist of it is humans as a species are not smart enough to be able to create rules for AIs that will protect us from them. They will be able to make logic leaps to circumvent any rules we can come up with.


Agreed

And we're also not smart enough to be able to protect these systems from other humans

The self driving car issue is a perfect example. Would you really want hackers having the ability to control your car? One of the reasons I ditched my model 3 reservation. It's just a bad idea.
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