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re: New pickup/suv that is off-road capable

Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:17 am to
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:17 am to
Ridiculous they don't offer a sunroof option on the 4Runner TRD Pro.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:18 am to
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Somehow I'm not surprised no one is going to use actual numbers to prove their claims.


Are there specs for that back in 1997?

I'll do some research since I don't give a damn who is right.
Posted by KG6
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:20 am to
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If you can’t see that the 1989 can go across ditches, etc. that would tear the plastic off the front on the 2018, you’re a rahtard.


I bet if you put the same size tires (the '89 obviously has mud tires where the 18 doesn't), you'd measure pretty damned close to the same ground clearance on that plastic air dam below the bumper. Also, the running board/step is visually making the 18 look lower. I'd bet they are very very similar when compared apples to apples.
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:21 am to
Honest question, outside of some mild 4wd why would you want to use a brand new vehicle for "off roading"? I also don't know why any of the new vehicles in 4x4 would not be adequate for 90% of off road use? If you are doing serious mudding, serious farm work, or anything else where you need something more dedicated than I don't know why you'd buy a stock new vehicle anyway.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:21 am to
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Are there specs for that back in 1997?


Only hard numbers for those trucks say that I'm right, but the other guys have eyes" so my numbers mean nothing
Posted by Flanders
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:21 am to



Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:22 am to
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Also, the running board/step is visually making the 18 look lower. I'd bet they are very very similar when compared apples to apples.


Get eyes, idiot
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:22 am to
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Like buying a house.

Of course it's expensive. Doesn't mean it's not one of the most off road-capable vehicles on the market straight from the factory.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:23 am to
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Only hard numbers for those trucks say that I'm right, but the other guys have eyes" so my numbers mean nothing



All I can find is to the bottom on the pumpkin. Which is a BS measurement on any vehicle.

Especially if we are talking approach angles and ground effects.
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 10:24 am
Posted by YOURADHERE
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:26 am to
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Ridiculous they don't offer a sunroof option on the 4Runner TRD Pro.


Didn't know that, the TRD Pros are a bit too rich for my taste, my wife will be getting a 4Runner in the coming months and we plan to go with the TRD Off Road Premium package.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:32 am to
My eyes work pretty well for measurements. It's plain to see that they lowered and redesigned the front air dam, and increased the bumper size for better mpg.


Eta: I will report back when I find the diamond in the rough
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 10:33 am
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:33 am to
They don't come with sunroofs, power rear tailgate, or a remote start system that makes sense (the latter two are not even available on the loaded Limited 4Runner).
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:35 am to
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My eyes work pretty well for measurements.


Gonna be funny when you're actually an engineer.
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Eta: I will report back when I find the diamond in the rough



No you won't.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:40 am to
What measurement are you showing for a 1997 silverado?

Best I can find is an unconfirmed of 13.5" at the front bumper, non Z71

I can see myself walking around the hood tonight with a tape to find this info
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 10:43 am
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:42 am to
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Who the hell is putting cargo in the bed of a $60K truck?


I've done it quite a few times for backyard projects. Lumber, deck boards, cinder block footings, and 150 or so retaining wall blocks.

Spray in bedliner = no marks in the bed of my truck.
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:48 am to
'97 wins IMO, of course I owned that gen. Steel front bumper, built-in leveling kit, all you needed was a 3/4" wrench and an alignment afterwards for a comfortable 1.5" on the front, three-fitty TBI engine. If it would've had solid front axle, man the possibilities. Was the GOAT at the time though IMO. Dodge still had the solid front axle and Ford had that TTB garbage front axle their half-tons.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:49 am to
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'97 wins IMO, of course I owned that gen.


So on top pf pictures, I now am competing with nostalgia?
Posted by Lsuhack1
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:50 am to
You can always do a Jeep wrangler if you want a vehicle that won't last or go with the 4runner trd pro

Posted by fightin tigers
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:59 am to
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So on top pf pictures, I now am competing with nostalgia


Do you have actual numbers or just a gut feeling?

Again, I only ask because there is nothing official online that I have found.

6.9" to the diff, but that can be altered with tire wear.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 11:00 am to
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handle moderate off-roading without mods


Whichever models offer mud tires and lockers from the manufacture. Everything else is how well you drive
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