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re: New pickup/suv that is off-road capable
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:55 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:55 pm to fightin tigers
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I was just referencing that I don't get how they pull off a solid axle above the center of the wheel.
I've seen some designs that involve geared housing and obviously angling the diff, just didnt think those came on the Discovery.
Oh, I got you now.
I thought you were measuring ground clearance to frame or lowest non-suspension component. I think measuring to differential is pointless as a comparative metric because its so easily changed with tire OD.
BTW, they do it with portal axles and no
Discos did NOT come with portal axles. That would be fricking sweet though 
. Very few vehicles EVER made have portals and almost all are military. If I had the money and time I would have restored a Unimog.
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:56 pm to wheelr
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wheelr
NOICE.
I didnt know GWagens had portal axles.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 2:03 pm to nola000
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I thought you were measuring ground clearance to frame or lowest non-suspension component. I think measuring to differential is pointless as a comparative metric because its so easily changed with tire OD
I agree with this completely.
However, no other hard figures have been brought forward in this thread.
My ground clearance is probably 13" or so, but my frame is about 23"
Posted on 8/9/18 at 2:03 pm to nola000
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I didnt know GWagens had portal axles.
Think that is aftermarket, brabus maybe.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 2:04 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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What does one of those cost?
I have a 2017 and it was $45K
Posted on 8/9/18 at 2:27 pm to nola000
I've spent copious amounts of time in the mud, and 90% of the time, it's your rear diff that gets you stopped. Then, one tire is lighter than the other, and you can just hope for some type of locker to start working.
Why shouldn't ground clearance be measured as the distance from the ground to the lowest point?
Why shouldn't ground clearance be measured as the distance from the ground to the lowest point?
Posted on 8/9/18 at 2:32 pm to Hammertime
Because most people aren't in mud.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 2:53 pm to fightin tigers
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Because most people aren't in mud.
Well here in Louisiana, one can't go a mile offroading without hitting mud.
Now call me dumb, but to me, I think that people paying 30-40K for something to use offroad is just pure dumb unless a farmer/cattleman or something like that.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 3:00 pm to fishfighter
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Well here in Louisiana, one can't go a mile offroading without hitting mud
Sicily Island.
Plenty of trail rides too.
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 8/9/18 at 3:07 pm to Eli Goldfinger
What does a slanted front end have to do w clearance?
Posted on 8/9/18 at 3:09 pm to tigerfoot
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What does a slanted front end have to do w clearance?
Nothing. The new trucks are at the very least just as capable as the old ones based on actual numbers. But he has eyes, so the numbers don't matter.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 3:18 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:the new ones would yank the axles out from under the old ones.
The new trucks are at the very least just as capable as the old ones based on actual numbers
Posted on 8/9/18 at 3:48 pm to fightin tigers
It's gets muddy there too
Posted on 8/9/18 at 6:17 pm to Hammertime
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Why shouldn't ground clearance be measured as the distance from the ground to the lowest point?
I said as a comparative metric. Obviously, in a vacuum, it IS the most important.
In other words, if I'm comparing two vehicles, ground clearance to differential isn't important to me because I would just put bigger tires on whatever I end up with anyway
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:08 pm to LNCHBOX
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The new trucks are at the very least just as capable as the old ones based on actual numbers. But he has eyes, so the numbers don't matter
I don’t know why but I like everything about the new 4x4 but 2 things.
1. Electronic 4wd box. Let me drive forward 5 feet backwards 5 feet and hope it is locked in.
2. Electronic locking differentials.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:07 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Land Rover Defender baw
Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:09 pm to Eli Goldfinger
4Runner and the Wrangler the last midsize body on frame SUVs.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:57 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:. Dude, youd argue with a goddam fencepost. Who the frick is taking a $90k worth of cruiser up the trails. No one thats who. Its a grocery getter with a locking rear diff and a sunroof.
Every vehicle is bigger and nicer than the old versions were. They are still focused on being very capable
Oh, i saw a '99 ish Z71 today its definitely higher in the front than the new trucks. Also, the approach angle for a GMC 2014 Z is 14.5 ". :. Eat shite bendejo.
Lastly, my previous post presented facts not nostalgia.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:01 pm to White Bear
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Dude, youd argue with a goddam fencepost. Who the frick is taking a $90k worth of cruiser up the trails. No one thats who. Its a grocery getter with a locking rear diff and a sunroof.
Sorry, but that's just not true. People still take them off road.
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Oh, i saw a '99 ish Z71 today its definitely higher in the front than the new trucks.
Oh well that settles it
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Also, the approach angle for a GMC 2014 Z is 14.5 ". :. Eat shite bendejo
Angles are measured in degrees, not inches.
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Lastly, my previous post presented facts not nostalgia.
Nope. I presented actual facts.
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