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re: New Orleans City Council Passes Smoking Ban
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
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e shoe is only on the other foot due to government threat, which has nothing to do with the competition of ideas in the market
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and smokers DON'T have a choice in the current legal scheme. what bars can they choose to smoke in? none. did non-smokers have non-smoking options in the old system? yes. so it's not the same scenario
Boom...
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Nah, I won't have to now.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:54 pm to LNCHBOX
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So my right to breathe clean air is trumped by
Owners right to conduct business how they like.
Yes.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:55 pm to LNCHBOX
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So my right to breath is trumped by smokers' "right" to smoke in public places?
i privately owned bar isn't a "public place". it's open to the public. but you as the consumer can choose to go into that business or that businesses competition.
amazing how people only believe in Liberty when it suits their own agenda.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:55 pm to fightin tigers
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Owners right to conduct business how they like.
this
its so fricking simple
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:55 pm to Winkface
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It's bad when it is inhaled directly and it's bad when indirectly inhaled in confined spaces. Fact.
Now you are parsing and adding specifics that are not part of this. Who are you to decide what a confined space is?
And I figured you would not touch the part about it being a legal substance. Par for the course.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:55 pm to lsunurse
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Cigar bars, hookah bars, outdoor patios of regular bars.
Those look like choices to me
those aren't choices in the market. they are limitations created by a law
you're shifting the standards
a pure market allows a choice: smoking bar or non-smoking bar.
and bar means an establishment that primarily sells alcohol and a smoking bar means you can smoke inside of it. non-smoking bars do not allow smoking inside
now smokers are not given a choice. they must go to non-smoking bars. those are the only choice
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:55 pm to CarRamrod
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Yea and Jews wore those stars for years before they we made to walk into an oven.
Hey now!
Don't badmouth the systems of the National Socialist party of Nazi Germany, simply because New Orleans smoking laws are fricking insane!
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:55 pm to fightin tigers
I'll be honest, the bars up here are all non-smoking and it's really nice. I didn't even realize how much I enjoyed not having smoke all around me until I came home over Christmas and went to The Bulldog...it was awful and I smelled like smoke the rest of the day.
However, I knew going in there that would happen, and I chose to go in anyway, so....yeah. I'm torn on this one.
However, I knew going in there that would happen, and I chose to go in anyway, so....yeah. I'm torn on this one.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:56 pm to Salmon
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Owners right to conduct business how they like
Why are you people not picketing outside the state capital daily over all the BS Blue Laws we have that are FAR more intrusive. And actually prevent business from being open all over the state and not just New Orleans?
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:57 pm to Winkface
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I wonder if there was this much disagreement when asbestos was banned
Not sure the government can ban a naturally occuring mineral.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:57 pm to AbitaFan08
i wonder what will happen when i light one up in F&M's or the boot. i'm sure they'll throw me out right away.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:57 pm to Catman88
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Why are you people not picketing outside the state capital daily over all the BS Blue Laws we have that are FAR more intrusive. And actually prevent business from being open all over the state and not just New Orleans?
are we picketing this law?
there are plenty of laws that I believe are complete bullshite
but since we already have bullshite laws, should be just accept more bullshite laws?
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
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those aren't choices in the market. they are limitations created by a law
Again in the same market where can a non-smoker choose to gamble in New Orleans?
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:57 pm to Catman88
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Why are you people not picketing outside the state capital daily o
the people who have time for this shite are the same ones who have time to collect welfare, hence the vicious cycle of law passage
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
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now smokers are not given a choice. they must go to non-smoking bars. those are the only choice
So stepping outside to smoke isn't a choice anymore? I must have missed something. The article said that was still legal?
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:57 pm to Catman88
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Again in the same market where can a non-smoker choose to gamble in New Orleans?
its bullshite that Harrahs can be the only casino
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:58 pm to Catman88
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Why are you people not picketing outside the state capital daily over all the BS Blue Laws we have that are FAR more intrusive.
I agree, I protested every time I fricked up and went shopping in BR on a Sunday.
Left shopping baskets full at the register many times because I forgot about the Blue Laws.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:58 pm to Salmon
Most people in this thread did not even know it was illegal to sell a car on a Sunday and its been this way for YEARS. But cut out cigarettes and all hell breaks loose.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:58 pm to fightin tigers
quote:So there's no federal ban on the use of asbestos?
Not sure the government can ban a naturally occuring mineral.
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