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re: New Nola Airport Update - October Opening Unlikely, No Firm Date Set

Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:12 pm to
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8972 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:12 pm to
To take it a step further, the entire funding package has been approved by the airlines. They have a clause in their use and lease agreement known as “Majority in interest”. It allows them to approve or reject any capital project because they will fund it through their user fees.
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35132 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:12 pm to
I heard Kenner was on the move brah but I didn’t know they were building airports.
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8972 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

Is the Airport profitable?


By definition, no. It is a break even enterprise.

The airport operates on a compensatory rate structure. All costs and all revenues are pooled. If a deficit the airlines kick in the shortfall, of a surplus then the airport cuts a check to the airlines.
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 8:14 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79794 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:14 pm to
So zero tax dollars go to the airport?

Have never researched, but besides a few majors I don't think any are profitable without tax dollars.

Im not knocking the method, I agree with doing so.
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 8:17 pm
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8972 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:16 pm to
Zero local tax dollars go to it. There are the FAA grants, but those are for airfield infrastructure, like runway rehabilitations.
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35132 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:17 pm to
Do the FAA grants cover access roads ?
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8972 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:18 pm to
No airports in the US are profitable, save for maybe Paine Field and Westchester.

That is because no US airports are for profit entities. Those two I listed are the only ones who operate under a PPP currently. Everything else is municipal owned, and therefore not for profit.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61783 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:18 pm to
Thank you SM6 for always bringing facts into this discussion
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8972 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:19 pm to
quote:

Do the FAA grants cover access roads ?


Typically, no. Unless they are roadway access points necessary for the safe operation of the airport (ie for fire rescue)
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13768 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:22 pm to
If it makes everyone feel better, the new airport in Berlin is like 10 years over deadline. And may never open. So things could be worse....

Yeah, I know. Germans.
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
10651 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:29 pm to
Not surprised by any of this with New Orleans

Still remember what a mess the 1984 worlds fair was.

Just name a project in New Orleans that isn’t a mess and full of corruption.
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
11403 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:44 pm to
Only reason they are building the new terminal is because the NFL told them they needed it to host another Super Bowl...yup heard it here first
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46420 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:44 pm to
quote:

Toilets will back up on day 1 no matter what


They will call it the Katrina Super dome experience
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82336 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:46 pm to
If that new exit is going to be years before it is built, probably a good thing this terminal continues to be delayed
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:47 pm to
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The project is funded by PFCs and General
Airport Revenue Bonds


So instead of making Orleans Parish residents pay for this, they're making people who can actually afford a plane ticket pay for it.

WHAT A RELIEF.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79794 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:49 pm to
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So instead of making Orleans Parish residents pay for this, they're making people who can actually afford a plane ticket pay for it.

WHAT A RELIEF.




No no, he clarified, no taxes go towards the airport. FAA grants do though.
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 8:50 pm
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
12985 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:49 pm to
By comparison, Hobby added a 6 gate international expansion that cost $150mm. It was announced in 2011 and completed in the spring 2016.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78662 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:50 pm to
Yeah but Houston also has IAH. Nola doesn’t have that luxury.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79794 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

and completed in the spring 2016.



Behind schedule
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

No no, he clarified, no taxes go towards the airport. FAA grants do though.


We're basically just smearing the feces around as much as possible at this point.

If it were up to me, Orleans Parish and the state would pay for most of this, and that wouldn't be a bad thing.
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