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re: New MSY: will current structure be torn down or will the new terminal be a 2nd terminal?

Posted on 4/15/18 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by Lake Vegas Tiger
Lake Vegas
Member since Jun 2014
3299 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 12:51 pm to
waste of money
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72825 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 12:54 pm to
I've never been in any of the other ones but I know C always has a mile long line for security.

I hope they do a good job with that aspect of the new one. Shitty airports are shitty because they can't handle any volume through security
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
35576 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 12:55 pm to
That current airport is a pile of shite. It’s embarrassing.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23419 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:02 pm to
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You must not travel much. MSY is one of the shittiest airports in the country.


Some ridiculous shite in this thread. Nola airport is not noticeably worse than any airport I have been to for a city it’s size.

What are some actual reasons for its shittiness?
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
6626 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:04 pm to
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...lipstick on a pig


In keeping with the barnyard analogy and speaking as one of the cattle, it doesn’t matter whether the barn is a palace or a shed, you’re gonna get treated the same way by the airlines and security and the wonderfully helpful people in airport service industries.
Posted by ellishughtiger
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Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:05 pm to
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will the current structure be torn down or will the new terminal be a second terminal?


It’s going to be the main shipping terminal when Amazon comes to Nola.
Posted by ellishughtiger
70118
Member since Jul 2004
21182 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:09 pm to
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Nola airport is not noticeably worse than any airport I have been to for a city it’s size.

What are some actual reasons for its shittiness?


I agree. It’s easy to get in and out of. The only time I find it sucks is early morning flights when TSA are short on agents.
Posted by DoctorTechnical
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
3041 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:24 pm to
Just came back from a convention in Las Vegas. Been flying in/out of McCarran for some 40 years now, and it seems to be able to efficiently and politely handle the crush of some 50 million annual travelers in the same facility that was built in 1942 (upgraded many times, of course).
Posted by MarcusQuinn
Member since Aug 2005
582 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:26 pm to
It’s functional, but not very nice relative to most airports. Feels dated with few amenities and food/beverage options. Worn flooring & seats, few charging areas, dark gates, dingy bathrooms etc. Just... old. I don’t think broken check-in kiosks or TSA lines are really much worse than anywhere else though. They did a lot of cosmetic upgrades before the 2013 Super Bowl, which helped. And Concourse D is probably my least favorite. Worst food options, beer that taste like it’s tapped from dirty lines and it all generally feels dead.

I assume the new airport will be substantially better, but it seems to have been “hidden” until just before construction. Nobody really knew it was in the works. I don’t recall hearing about public hearings, conceptual sketches, bids, costs estimates, funding sources, site options, scope, etc. It was suspiciously quiet. I’m not sure why that is or how such a massive, high profile project was able to stay under the radar.

I wonder what the cost to upgrade the existing airport would be relative to building new? I don’t think it was a matter of capacity so that may have been a viable option. And what’s the deal with Concourse A at MSY? It’s been abandoned as long as I can remember.
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
11159 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:26 pm to
Torn down except for D which will be used for office space and charter/ special flights.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139229 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:26 pm to
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Just came back from a convention in Las Vegas. Been flying in/out of McCarran for some 40 years now, and it seems to be able to efficiently and politely handle the crush of some 50 million annual travelers in the same facility that was built in 1942 (upgraded many times, of course).

The NOLA apologists won't like that
Posted by MarcusQuinn
Member since Aug 2005
582 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:32 pm to
It’s apples to oranges to bananas. Airline, counter agent, TSA agent, crowds that day, flight crew, etc. Same airport has lots of potential outcomes. Most of the time the mood and attentiveness of the 3-4 people you deal with from drop off to boarding makes much more of a difference than the actual airport.
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:35 pm to
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Can someone tell me why a new airport was needed?

Because it was built long enough ago that the infastructure is antiquated and made operating costs too expensive.

That being said, that should have been determined before they spent hundreds of millions to renovate the airport over the years (including over $300 million in renovations unveiled in 2013). That was right before they commenced plans to get a new airport.

The real question is if the officers that patrol will actually do their jobs or if the drop off and pick up areas will continue to be filled with parked cars. Oh, and if dedicated access roads will be ready in time; otherwise, it's going to be a nightmare to get to and from the new airport.

Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
37332 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:36 pm to
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ust came back from a convention in Las Vegas. Been flying in/out of McCarran for some 40 years now, and it seems to be able to efficiently and politely handle the crush of some 50 million annual travelers in the same facility that was built in 1942 (upgraded many times, of course).

The NOLA apologists won't like that



I'd be willing to bet that the original terminal at McCarran is long gone...been in and out of there a couple of times myself

I'm surprised that a solution to fund the approach roads wasn't copied from the new Denver airport (where you have to basically have to pay to exit)

the new NOLA terminal is long overdue and should make things a lot easier...
Posted by bleeng
The Woodlands
Member since Apr 2013
4442 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:36 pm to
Right up there with KCI. Talking about outdated.
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
14620 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:38 pm to
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quote:
is this the one that's ready to go, but it will take a few years before roads are built to access it?

Yeah. Typical Louisiana incompetence.


It's the Louisiana Way. Just off the top of my head...

Hale Boggs (Luling 310) Bridge
Gramercy-Wallace (Veterans Memorial) Bridge
MSY Airport new terminal
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:41 pm to
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What are some actual reasons for its shittiness


Long lines at the kiosks with too few workers.

Long lines at TSA with too few total and too many incompetent workers.

Bad food choices.

Dirty restroom facilities.

Just an overall dirty, smelly, shitty airport.

I travel fairly frequently and it amazes me how much better and cleaner almost every other airport in the country is.
Posted by DomePatrol1980
Member since Mar 2018
921 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:43 pm to
KCI is pretty easy to get in and out of. The pros stop there. Last projection for the new airport to open is 2021.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85553 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

travel fairly frequently and it amazes me how much better and cleaner almost every other city in the country is.

Posted by FredsGotSlacks
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
917 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 2:03 pm to
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Yeah. Typical Louisiana incompetence.

The type of incompetence that builds a brand new rental car facility so they can get the super bowl, only to have it be rendered useless 4 years later.
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