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re: New Infrastructure Spending Plan likely means a NOLA -Baton Rouge passenger rail link

Posted on 4/4/21 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26372 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 2:55 pm to
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What don’t you understand about the part that it will be up to the state to maintain it.




Quote the exact post and poster who is arguing that operations and maintenance won't have to be paid for.

Operations and maintenance for anything you build will cost something. That includes all of the highways everyone is demanding that we build.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76059 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 2:56 pm to
Politicians and their pork always sneak in there.
Posted by wheelr
Banned
Member since Jul 2012
5841 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 3:00 pm to
Lack of funding isn't the main problem. It's the bureaucracy, corruption and mismanagement of funds.

In 50 years they couldn't get a small crew with a mag drill to make some drain holes? In 50 years they couldn't invest in some paint to protect a $100,000,000+ structure? Its a joke to entrust these clowns with more money.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33035 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 3:02 pm to
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I'd rather just drive to and from New Orleans.



That's cool.

But state tax dollars will end up being contributed towards rebuilding the rapidly deteriorating rail link over the spillway if your "fiscally conservative" state legislators elect to turn away this federal funding. Or they can refuse that too and keep the bottleneck around to let KCS/CN fix it sometime this next 100 years, if ever.

Texas will probably pick up what Louisiana refuses; making it even more competitive relative to its backwoods neighbor than it is today.
Posted by bruslyboogie
Brusly
Member since Jan 2008
178 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 3:06 pm to
Obviously you’ve never been on the causeway when there was an accident.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17329 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 3:10 pm to
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To give you an idea, the same money applied to a roads project isn't enough to even add a lane to I10 from BR to NOLA.



It's the unfortunate reality of Louisiana's typography. So much of our highways have to be elevated; which makes improving them extremely costly. It's much, much easier and cheaper to double up on a rail line or add a platform here and there.

Another unfortunate reality: Louisiana pretty close to needing both a new commuter rail link AND additional highway lanes between Baton Rouge and New Orleans.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76059 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 3:11 pm to
You can drive 5 of the 10 longest bridges in the US and never leave South La.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17329 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 3:16 pm to
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This is the condition of a large truss bridge in Louisiana. Bolts literally rusted away and standing water in the beams because drain holes were installed on the high side vs the low side.


Is that the Gramercy Bridge?

If so, I'm never driving on it again.
Posted by bruslyboogie
Brusly
Member since Jan 2008
178 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 3:16 pm to
I went to work at DOTD in 1995. I started my career in public transportation as rail program manager. One of my first tasks was to finish up a study on passenger rail from BR to NO. The consultant had done a very good study. It would start at Catfish Town with four stops along the route ending at UPT in NO. The cost would be about $30 each way. The route would be on the KCS rail line. As most studies it’s collecting dust in a DOTD closet. The main issue is to get the railroad to allow the use of their railway.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76059 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 3:19 pm to
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The main issue is to get the railroad to allow the use of their railway.


I know one of the spillway bridges was just upgraded, in your experience was is the chance of trading upgrading of the other bridge in exchange for some priority rights on the BR-NOLA stretch?

Amtrak is already brutal trying to get past Hammond because of the issue.
Posted by RockinDood
Member since Aug 2020
1081 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 3:23 pm to
LOL. we are never going to see this railroad. That money is going to vanish faster than a fart in the wind.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29207 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 5:38 pm to
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but 1960's technology while the rest of the country advances is what keeps Louisiana in last place.



You’re proposing in investing in 1860’s shite, you moron
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29207 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 5:41 pm to
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Texas will probably pick up what Louisiana refuses; making it even more competitive relative to its backwoods neighbor than it is today.



This makes negative sense

So invest in a railway for private rail to go to our ports, or they’ll go elsewhere......ok
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29207 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 5:43 pm to
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The cost would be about $30 each way.


Yea, there would be about 10 people riding per day
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71178 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 5:44 pm to
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improving our transportation infrastructure should be applauded

Doing so when existing infrastructure is currently going to shite all across the country, and areas that aren't built for mass population influxes are desperately lagging behind should not be applauded.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 5:46 pm to
An idea that will never happen but the right hands will be greased
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71178 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 5:46 pm to
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Yea, there would be about 10 people riding per day

I was wondering if I was the only one thinking that. A commuter train that costs $60 round trip, each day isn't going to be very appealing.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31139 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 5:46 pm to
So no new bridge, but a new rail system?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71178 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 5:49 pm to
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So no new bridge, but a new rail system?

A 2018 study found that more than 50,000 bridges across the country have been deemed "structurally deficient". That's a heap of bridges.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33035 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 5:51 pm to
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So no new bridge, but a new rail system?


Where did you get “no new bridge” from?
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