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re: New Express bus route planned between LSU and north Baton Rouge

Posted on 8/14/18 at 7:58 am to
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 7:58 am to
BR leaders doing BR shite..

Not surprising. They HAVE to cater to NBR
Posted by philly444
stuck in contraflow
Member since Nov 2008
11368 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:01 am to
More rich white people to rob baw
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26601 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:03 am to
What could go wrong?

Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:26 am to
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Imagine all the things they can bring back to the community from LSU.


Like my bike.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28425 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:28 am to
quote:

BR leaders doing BR shite..

Not surprising. They HAVE to cater to NBR


Basically this. It's a multi-million dollar waste of money just to say they are catering to the ghetto. No doubt someone (likely several someones) will be getting a nice pay day for this waste.

They'll push this as part of the NBR "redevelopment" plan as if (a) the majority LSU students would ever want to go to the hood (hell, there's one already on campus!) and/or (b) that LSU students don't already have vehicles and have no need to take the bus.

The ONLY way NBR is ever "redeveloped" is if it is gentrified, which would bring a whole new round of bitching and complaining from the residents of NBR and this administration.

BR has reached it's pinnacle. Once Broome was elected the quick trip downhill was set in motion. That's what happens when you make policy decisions SOLELY based on skin color rather than good business sense
Posted by mays
Member since Jul 2018
891 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:29 am to
In a normal city, the cost of adding a bus route is about $40-50 million cheaper.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28425 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:33 am to
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In a normal city, the cost of adding a bus route is about $40-50 million cheaper


In a normal city, the government doesn't create a bus route for which there is literally ZERO demand.

This isn't NYC, DC, LA, and Baton Rouge isn't THAT big. Most people here, even low income people, have a vehicle. It's not difficult to get from NBR to LSU if one needs to.

Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:35 am to
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The ONLY way NBR is ever "redeveloped" is if it is gentrified,


This word does not exist in Baton Rouge. People don’t gentrify. They just leave and build some shitty cookie cutter in LP or Ascension.

I’ve seen what true gentrification looks like in major cities and BR NEVER gets that.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28425 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:44 am to
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his word does not exist in Baton Rouge. People don’t gentrify. They just leave and build some shitty cookie cutter in LP or Ascension.


Can you really blame them? Why stay in BR to be one of the first to rebuild a shitty part of town and then have to send your kid to private school when you can just live in a nicer neighborhood in Ascension or LP and save the cost of private school. Particularly in light of the fact that staying in BR would mean you are subject to a city government who thinks it's a good use of public funds to develop a multi-million dollar bus route that NO ONE actually needs
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66968 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:44 am to
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I’ve seen what true gentrification looks like in major cities and BR NEVER gets that.


ehhh, i wouldn't go that far.

quote:

They just leave and build some shitty cookie cutter in LP or Ascension.


or leave the state if intelligent.


what's the desired outcome of said project? what is the best case scenario?

5-10 NBR residents per week use this route to attend LSU or their job at LSU?

Who runs the cost benefit analysis on these NBR revamp projects? There is hardly 0 benefit to the city of Baton Rouge.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30681 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:50 am to
Are they going to set up a reciprocating route from "st. george" to the bluff?....
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2239 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:55 am to
You just made up all of this:

quote:

In a normal city, the government doesn't create a bus route for which there is literally ZERO demand. This isn't NYC, DC, LA, and Baton Rouge isn't THAT big.

Most people here, even low income people, have a vehicle. It's not difficult to get from NBR to LSU if one needs to.


I've seen economic data on NBR, there is huge demand, both actual and latent, for efficient, frequent transit access from NBR to two of the regions largest job centers, downtown and LSU. This project, while expensive, actually makes some sense.

Also NBR is well above the national average of households without access to a vehicle. If this helps people get to work more efficiently and faster, why would it not be a good project.
Posted by dfintlyHmmrd
Jigga City
Member since Dec 2016
1408 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:56 am to
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Who runs the cost benefit analysis on these NBR revamp projects?


No one does, if they did dumb ideas like this would die early in the planning stages
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66968 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:59 am to
alright, that's a fair set of points. although, i don't think the ratio of NBR people without a access to a vehicle
/ NBR people who have or would get a job in Downtown or LSU is anywhere near 1:1 like you are alluding.

but here's my question still: why is $50 million needed, when they could simply re-route a few buses or buy new buses for the new route?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36122 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:08 am to
I was wondering the same thing.

In a nutshell what I'd the difference between a normal bus line and this express bus line?

Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2239 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:08 am to
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but here's my question still: why is $50 million needed, when they could simply re-route a few buses or buy new buses for the new route?


This is a really good and fair question to ask!

I don't know much about the project but if its BRT, which I assume it is based on the cost, generally you have nicer, bigger buses, signal prioritization, special loading platforms, and in some places, dedicated lanes. Its essentially meant to have similar benefits to a fix route rail, but with a cheaper price tag.

I hope they've done the analysis that indicates the benefits/cost out weight other transit options such as just running more buses. Also these projects are generally tied to federal grant with a 20% or 25% local match.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33962 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:17 am to
I wonder how many of the people who couldn't get into LSU Law will use this bus to get to Southern Law
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:25 am to
Why would a student ever need to go to North BR/Plank Rd? That'll happen maybe four times in 10 years, and it'll be accidental
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48693 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:27 am to
This must be Broome pandering to her base. There's zero demand for this route. Will probably just increase robberies on campus
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66968 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:38 am to
i'm going to shoot Discovery Channel an email about a pilot surrounding this new bus route:

Urban Survivor.

It's a beautiful Fall Saturday in Baton Rouge, LA. Jacob Tandy and his frat bro's are throwing their weekly rager that night after a full day of tailgating and celebrating their 3rd win of the season with a slim LSU victory over lowly South Alabama. One might say, Jacob has too good a time that night and his frat bro's decide to play a sinister trick on unsuspecting blacked out Jacob.....

They buy Jacob a one way ticket to North Baton Rouge on the new LSU to NBR bus line.


With no cell phone or wallet, thus license, daddy's credit card, or identification. Jacob finds himself in a life threatening situation. Will Jacob survive the perilous dangers present in North Baton Rouge? A viscous hangover, Gang Bangers, Street Whores, Drug Addicts, and racist African Americans seeking jussis for Alton Sterling's death all stand in the way of Jacob making his way back to the safety of South Baton Rouge and the comfort of his fraternity house.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 9:39 am
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