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re: New Express bus route planned between LSU and north Baton Rouge
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:49 am to Hammertime
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:49 am to Hammertime
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Why would a student ever need to go to North BR/Plank Rd? That'll happen maybe four times in 10 years, and it'll be accidental
This isn't really for students. LSU employees thousands of employees in food service, janitorial, landscaping, general office, etc. And most of those jobs are lower income jobs, but they can have good benefits and be good career ladder jobs.
Add that to the job center downtown and more frequent major corridor service from NBR begins to make sense. Question is what is the best and most efficient way to provide it: more regular buses, circulator system, BRT, light rail, hyperloop, star trek transporter, etc.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:50 am to fallguy_1978
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There's zero demand for this route. Will probably just increase robberies on campus
Increasing robberies on campus may be what we need to stem the tide of campus kids growing up to be SJWs.
Hard to virtue signal when your outside of your sheltered cocoon and have to pick up at least some basic street skills!
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:52 am to fallguy_1978
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This must be Broome pandering to her base. There's zero demand for this route. Will probably just increase robberies on campus
Again, this is BS. I'm honestly don't know if I support the project plans but there is demand for better transit connectivity to downtown and LSU from NBR. This should be about access to jobs, not student transportation.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:03 am to Alt26
That’s the problem. Everybody has this same mindset. It takes a very special person to be the type of lead the gentrification process. The leadership in the city doesn’t make it easier at all though! Baton Rouge just sucks all around aside from LSU of course.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:14 am to TheHarahanian
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“The Getaway Express”
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:30 am to OKTGR580
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That’s the problem. Everybody has this same mindset. It takes a very special person to be the type of lead the gentrification process
Plank road will never be gentrified. It's just not a desirable location right there by the refinery. It's filled with dilapidated small homes built in the 1930s.
I think Mid City to downtown is the right place to focus on right now.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:42 am to member12
why does property need to be acq
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:43 am to fallguy_1978
The way I see it, NBR is where most people ride the bus. I would say that’s mainly because, 1) they don’t have a car and are poor and/or 2) the layout of the street grid is more conducive to transit, where typical traffic doesn’t cause delays.
Because of this, the Plank corridor seems perfect for a test case to show the city as a whole that BRT can work in Baton Rouge. It’s cheap to buy up the property needed to do so and it’s pretty much a blank slate, where any changes at all create an increase in quality of life (using that term loosely here).
I’d much rather see money spent on something that will be used and show a good test case for something that could be expanded to more area of the parish (especially if this is mostly paid for by federal grants) rather than trying to fund a tram down Nicholson that was putting too much funding into something unproven in BR yet.
I’m sure there are plenty of places that people thought would never be gentrified. And Plank isn’t nearly as close to Exxon as Scenic highway, where most of the land has been bought up by Exxon.
Because of this, the Plank corridor seems perfect for a test case to show the city as a whole that BRT can work in Baton Rouge. It’s cheap to buy up the property needed to do so and it’s pretty much a blank slate, where any changes at all create an increase in quality of life (using that term loosely here).
I’d much rather see money spent on something that will be used and show a good test case for something that could be expanded to more area of the parish (especially if this is mostly paid for by federal grants) rather than trying to fund a tram down Nicholson that was putting too much funding into something unproven in BR yet.
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Plank road will never be gentrified. It's just not a desirable location right there by the refinery. It's filled with dilapidated small homes built in the 1930s.
I’m sure there are plenty of places that people thought would never be gentrified. And Plank isn’t nearly as close to Exxon as Scenic highway, where most of the land has been bought up by Exxon.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 10:45 am
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:48 am to OKTGR580
Gentrification happens when the cost of land or buildings gets so high that it is cheaper and easier to move into a shithole than building elsewhere.
While land and building prices are going up, people would rather sit in gridlock for 4 hours a day than live in the middle of the hood dodging bullets every night.
While land and building prices are going up, people would rather sit in gridlock for 4 hours a day than live in the middle of the hood dodging bullets every night.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:49 am to Scruffy
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Scruffy will bet that never in the history of history has “lack of a bus route” been the reason why someone in NBR wasn’t able to attend LSU.
One point off the required ACT entrance score for every bus you take to and from campus. Everybody’s going be riding the bus to LSU. Problem solved.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:51 am to Klark Kent
Thank you!
I keep seeing out of service busses parked in droves at Cortana and Mall Of LA most of the day.
If they have so much capacity being unused, why not just retask them instead of buying new ones?
Keep in mind I am asking why a sane, non-corrupt government would do so. Which doesn’t apply here.
I keep seeing out of service busses parked in droves at Cortana and Mall Of LA most of the day.
If they have so much capacity being unused, why not just retask them instead of buying new ones?
Keep in mind I am asking why a sane, non-corrupt government would do so. Which doesn’t apply here.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:52 am to LSUtoBOOT
I don’t think there are enough busses in BR to get some of these people with 12 composites into the school.
That’s what Southern is for.
That’s what Southern is for.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:01 am to fallguy_1978
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Plank road will never be gentrified. It's just not a desirable location right there by the refinery. It's filled with dilapidated small homes built in the 1930s.
Never say never.
There are pockets east of Plank where some more substantial, more desirable homes have been built and even reasonably well maintained....but you are right that there are a lot of tear downs in some neighborhoods.
A lot of the streets are also narrow two lanes with open ditches and no sidewalks. Kind of like the older parts of Southdowns.
The stuff built since the 1940s have a lot more potential. Usually better built, larger homes with more desirable architecture. Baton Rouge seems to have started requiring drainage and street lights for residential developments around that time too. There is a lot of that along Winbourne, Fairfield, North Acadian, and near the DMZ by Tony’s and Redemptorist.
There are also a lot of 3-4 bedroom 1960s ranch style homes in Glen Oaks, Wooddale, and Howell Place. Those are in pretty well laid out neighborhoods, but farther from Plank, which is where the redevelopment focus is. Don’t see much potential for change in those areas until Airline Highway gets a substantial revamp and there are more big employment centers in that area. Those neighborhoods are not in quite as bad of shape yet anyways.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:02 am to NOLALGD
quote:Do you think they sleep at work now?
LSU employees thousands of employees in food service, janitorial, landscaping, general office, etc
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:03 am to teke184
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While land and building prices are going up, people would rather sit in gridlock for 4 hours a day than live in the middle of the hood dodging bullets every night
To even begin talking about gentrification on a larger scale, the unemployment rate in Louisiana needs to at least keep up with the national average.
The local economy just hasn’t been strong enough in the last few years.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 11:04 am
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:09 am to member12
Part of it is the kind of people who would be interested in gentrification, mainly yuppies and Dual Income No Kids, aren’t typically the new jobs added around here.
We get more oil baws who want to live out in the woods so they can have a deer stand in their backyard.
We also don’t really have an urban core that lends itself to what you get in NOLA, Detroit, New York, etc, to where you can get everything you want in a small area. Outside of some bars, downtown BR is a wasteland after hours.
We get more oil baws who want to live out in the woods so they can have a deer stand in their backyard.
We also don’t really have an urban core that lends itself to what you get in NOLA, Detroit, New York, etc, to where you can get everything you want in a small area. Outside of some bars, downtown BR is a wasteland after hours.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:11 am to fallguy_1978
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Mid City to downtown is the right place to focus on right now.
I agree 100%. Government is doing well but needs work closer to downtown. Florida needs a lot of work but can be done.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:22 pm to OKTGR580
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Government is doing well but needs work closer to downtown. Florida needs a lot of work but can be done
I'd like to see both, Government fills in from mid-city to downtown and Nicholson corridor gets filled in from LSU to downtown.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:14 pm to 03GeeTee
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:16 pm to Scruffy
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Who does this benefit?
Hipster LSU students that will gentrify Plank road
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