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re: New Express bus route planned between LSU and north Baton Rouge

Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:49 am to
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2791 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:49 am to
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Why would a student ever need to go to North BR/Plank Rd? That'll happen maybe four times in 10 years, and it'll be accidental


This isn't really for students. LSU employees thousands of employees in food service, janitorial, landscaping, general office, etc. And most of those jobs are lower income jobs, but they can have good benefits and be good career ladder jobs.

Add that to the job center downtown and more frequent major corridor service from NBR begins to make sense. Question is what is the best and most efficient way to provide it: more regular buses, circulator system, BRT, light rail, hyperloop, star trek transporter, etc.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3211 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:50 am to
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There's zero demand for this route. Will probably just increase robberies on campus


Increasing robberies on campus may be what we need to stem the tide of campus kids growing up to be SJWs.

Hard to virtue signal when your outside of your sheltered cocoon and have to pick up at least some basic street skills!

Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2791 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:52 am to
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This must be Broome pandering to her base. There's zero demand for this route. Will probably just increase robberies on campus


Again, this is BS. I'm honestly don't know if I support the project plans but there is demand for better transit connectivity to downtown and LSU from NBR. This should be about access to jobs, not student transportation.
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:03 am to
That’s the problem. Everybody has this same mindset. It takes a very special person to be the type of lead the gentrification process. The leadership in the city doesn’t make it easier at all though! Baton Rouge just sucks all around aside from LSU of course.
Posted by Ripley
Member since Aug 2016
4589 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:14 am to
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“The Getaway Express”
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53816 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:30 am to
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That’s the problem. Everybody has this same mindset. It takes a very special person to be the type of lead the gentrification process

Plank road will never be gentrified. It's just not a desirable location right there by the refinery. It's filled with dilapidated small homes built in the 1930s.

I think Mid City to downtown is the right place to focus on right now.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59345 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:42 am to
why does property need to be acq
Posted by TigerRob20
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
3733 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:43 am to
The way I see it, NBR is where most people ride the bus. I would say that’s mainly because, 1) they don’t have a car and are poor and/or 2) the layout of the street grid is more conducive to transit, where typical traffic doesn’t cause delays.

Because of this, the Plank corridor seems perfect for a test case to show the city as a whole that BRT can work in Baton Rouge. It’s cheap to buy up the property needed to do so and it’s pretty much a blank slate, where any changes at all create an increase in quality of life (using that term loosely here).

I’d much rather see money spent on something that will be used and show a good test case for something that could be expanded to more area of the parish (especially if this is mostly paid for by federal grants) rather than trying to fund a tram down Nicholson that was putting too much funding into something unproven in BR yet.

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Plank road will never be gentrified. It's just not a desirable location right there by the refinery. It's filled with dilapidated small homes built in the 1930s.


I’m sure there are plenty of places that people thought would never be gentrified. And Plank isn’t nearly as close to Exxon as Scenic highway, where most of the land has been bought up by Exxon.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 10:45 am
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105168 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:48 am to
Gentrification happens when the cost of land or buildings gets so high that it is cheaper and easier to move into a shithole than building elsewhere.

While land and building prices are going up, people would rather sit in gridlock for 4 hours a day than live in the middle of the hood dodging bullets every night.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
21177 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:49 am to
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Scruffy will bet that never in the history of history has “lack of a bus route” been the reason why someone in NBR wasn’t able to attend LSU.


One point off the required ACT entrance score for every bus you take to and from campus. Everybody’s going be riding the bus to LSU. Problem solved.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105168 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:51 am to
Thank you!

I keep seeing out of service busses parked in droves at Cortana and Mall Of LA most of the day.

If they have so much capacity being unused, why not just retask them instead of buying new ones?


Keep in mind I am asking why a sane, non-corrupt government would do so. Which doesn’t apply here.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105168 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:52 am to
I don’t think there are enough busses in BR to get some of these people with 12 composites into the school.

That’s what Southern is for.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:01 am to
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Plank road will never be gentrified. It's just not a desirable location right there by the refinery. It's filled with dilapidated small homes built in the 1930s.


Never say never.

There are pockets east of Plank where some more substantial, more desirable homes have been built and even reasonably well maintained....but you are right that there are a lot of tear downs in some neighborhoods.

A lot of the streets are also narrow two lanes with open ditches and no sidewalks. Kind of like the older parts of Southdowns.

The stuff built since the 1940s have a lot more potential. Usually better built, larger homes with more desirable architecture. Baton Rouge seems to have started requiring drainage and street lights for residential developments around that time too. There is a lot of that along Winbourne, Fairfield, North Acadian, and near the DMZ by Tony’s and Redemptorist.

There are also a lot of 3-4 bedroom 1960s ranch style homes in Glen Oaks, Wooddale, and Howell Place. Those are in pretty well laid out neighborhoods, but farther from Plank, which is where the redevelopment focus is. Don’t see much potential for change in those areas until Airline Highway gets a substantial revamp and there are more big employment centers in that area. Those neighborhoods are not in quite as bad of shape yet anyways.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:02 am to
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LSU employees thousands of employees in food service, janitorial, landscaping, general office, etc
Do you think they sleep at work now?
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:03 am to
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While land and building prices are going up, people would rather sit in gridlock for 4 hours a day than live in the middle of the hood dodging bullets every night


To even begin talking about gentrification on a larger scale, the unemployment rate in Louisiana needs to at least keep up with the national average.

The local economy just hasn’t been strong enough in the last few years.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 11:04 am
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105168 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:09 am to
Part of it is the kind of people who would be interested in gentrification, mainly yuppies and Dual Income No Kids, aren’t typically the new jobs added around here.

We get more oil baws who want to live out in the woods so they can have a deer stand in their backyard.

We also don’t really have an urban core that lends itself to what you get in NOLA, Detroit, New York, etc, to where you can get everything you want in a small area. Outside of some bars, downtown BR is a wasteland after hours.
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:11 am to
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Mid City to downtown is the right place to focus on right now.


I agree 100%. Government is doing well but needs work closer to downtown. Florida needs a lot of work but can be done.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3211 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:22 pm to
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Government is doing well but needs work closer to downtown. Florida needs a lot of work but can be done


I'd like to see both, Government fills in from mid-city to downtown and Nicholson corridor gets filled in from LSU to downtown.

Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
60235 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:14 pm to
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Who in the hell decided this was a good idea?


Probably one of these folks.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139218 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:16 pm to
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Who does this benefit?

Hipster LSU students that will gentrify Plank road
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