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New diabetes medications prove the OT wrong, obesity is not always a choice
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:32 am
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:32 am
quote:WSJ (paywall alert)
Ozempic and similar drugs are transforming the world’s understanding of obesity. It isn’t so much about willpower: It’s about biology.
The success of the powerful new class of diabetes and weight-loss drugs shows how important chemistry is to determining a person’s weight. The brain is the body’s chief chemist, regulating appetite and making it difficult for many people to shed pounds and keep them off. The brain determines how much fat it wants people to carry, according to years of research bolstered by the new drugs.
The amount is like a setting on a dial, or what many researchers call a “set point” or “defended fat mass.” The brain maintains the dial setting or set point by regulating how much a person eats. Ozempic, its sister drug Wegovy and another, Mounjaro, lower the dial setting, or set point, in effect by acting on the brain to reduce hunger and make a person feel full sooner, some obesity researchers say.
The new set point lasts as long as a patient is on the drug, they say. Patients who ate a lot before they started taking one of the drugs feel less hungry and fill up more quickly—sometimes after one slice of pizza when they once ate the whole pie.
Some fatties are definitely fat because of their choices but others are not. So the OT experts who say that fatties are only fat because they choose to be are wrong.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:34 am to WeeWee
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Some fatties are definitely fat because of their choices but others are not. So the OT experts who say that fatties are only fat because they choose to be are wrong.
Whatever helps yall fat pieces of shite sleep at night.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:34 am to WeeWee
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Some fatties are definitely fat because of their choices but others are not. So the OT experts who say that fatties are only fat because they choose to be are wrong.
Found the fatty.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:35 am to WeeWee
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New diabetes medications prove
I stopped reading after this.

Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:35 am to WeeWee
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Some fatties are definitely fat because of their choices but others are not.
doubt it
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:36 am to WeeWee
I mean as long as your hormones are in check, thyroid, testosterone, estrogen, etc
Obesity is 100% a choice.
ETA:
How about instead of a entire pizza, we eat a steak and sweet potato and take our fat arse to the gym.
Obesity is 100% a choice.
ETA:
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The new set point lasts as long as a patient is on the drug, they say. Patients who ate a lot before they started taking one of the drugs feel less hungry and fill up more quickly—sometimes after one slice of pizza when they once ate the whole pie.

How about instead of a entire pizza, we eat a steak and sweet potato and take our fat arse to the gym.
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 8:42 am
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:36 am to WeeWee

Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:37 am to WeeWee
You may lose the weight, but you’ll always be fat boy to Oldmanbeasley.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:37 am to WeeWee
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Ozempic, its sister drug Wegovy and another, Mounjaro, lower the dial setting, or set point, in effect by acting on the brain to reduce hunger and make a person feel full sooner, some obesity researchers say.
So, its an appetite suppressant? How is this groundbreaking? You know what else is an appetite suppressant? Water.
Also, wouldn't you get the same or similar result through ketosis wherein you limit your sugar/carb intake and force your body to use fat as its primary fuel source rather than glucose?
I still fail to see how this is not primarily driven by lifestyle vs. chemestry.
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 8:39 am
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:40 am to WeeWee
Diabetes can cause obesity.
Obesity can cause diabetes.
Chicken and the egg.
Obesity can cause diabetes.
Chicken and the egg.
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 8:41 am
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:41 am to WaydownSouth
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I mean as long as your hormones are in check, thyroid, testosterone, estrogen, etc
This is true
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Obesity is 100% a choice.
Media and advertising sure does not help
Since the 1980's we seem to have a massive increase in sugar and salt. I can no longer eat at fast food joints as the salt and sugar overload
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:41 am to WaydownSouth
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I mean as long as your hormones are in check, thyroid, testosterone, estrogen, etc
Obesity is 100% a choice.
So if things you don't have direct control over are in check then it is a choice.
OK.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:41 am to WeeWee
Nope. Sorry but that's a story to bolster the "neccessity" for those drugs.
quote:This still demonstrates it's a willpower issue.
The brain is the body’s chief chemist, regulating appetite and making it difficult for many people to shed pounds and keep them off.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:42 am to Buck_Rogers
Semaglutide will frick your gut up, cause cancer and disease and make you skinny fat
It’s a miracle! Obesity wasn’t a choice after all!
It’s a miracle! Obesity wasn’t a choice after all!
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:42 am to WaydownSouth
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I mean as long as your hormones are in check, thyroid, testosterone, estrogen, etc
Overeating causes obesity. Obesity ruins a person's hormones. Obese people with ruined hormones then blame their obesity on their ruined hormones rather than blaming their hormones on their obesity.
Eta: and the same chicken/egg scenario plays out with virtually every obese person with a bad back.
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 8:44 am
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:42 am to Jake88
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This still demonstrates it's a willpower issue.
That’s a bingo
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:42 am to WeeWee
So the drugs curb hunger. That’s not biology, just making the self control easier.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:43 am to WeeWee
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The brain maintains the dial setting or set point by regulating how much a person eats.
But the brain still doesn't get to decide what a person puts in his mouth. A person may "feel" hungry. So what?
Show me some people who physically cannot lose weight with proper diet and exercise and then I'll listen.
I'm not saying some people aren't going to be naturally heavier than others. People just aren't naturally obese if they are eating a proper number of calories and exercising. These people may exist, but it is not common.
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