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re: New BMJ study confirmsCovid-19 vaccine reduces the risk of heart problems & blood clots.

Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:59 am to
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34999 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:59 am to
And you can bet that these same people believed that Covid came from natural viral trajectories as opposed to the Wuhan Lab.

Only fools will stick this DNA altering juice into their bloodstream/DNA. I don't know how we ever get faith back into any form of 'organized' institution, as the 'government' has shown themselves to absolutely ideologically manipulative and untrustworthy. That ship has sailed.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21300 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:01 am to
Anyone getting the vaccine was an idiot. No way to sugar coat it, the vaccine kills people. My father-in-law died one week after his second shot from blood clots. Toss that in your worthless fricking study.

THE VACCINE KILLS PEOPLE!!!
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9648 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:01 am to
quote:

If you go back and read my post history, you’ll see that I was always skeptical of the claims that non-N95 masks stopped or resulted transmission.


I'm not going to look at your post history. I'll take your word for it.

But the medical journals DID print it. And you were skeptical of it.

Well, don't be surprised that people are now skeptical of EVERYTHING they do.
Posted by eatpie
Kentucky
Member since Aug 2018
1149 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:02 am to
Don't believe your lying eyes! Believe this study funded by groups created by the big pharmaceutical companies!

There is little trust in the medical community "research" these days. The fact that medical research is not only funded by, but also controlled by the companies with a financial interest in the results (this is undisputed even in the medical community).

I'm not "anti-vaccine" by any measure. Do I think ALL vaccines available are necessary and worth the associated risks? No. Some vaccines are truly a miracle to mankind (from our perspective that is- who knows what people will think in 100 years).

If you think all vaccines are bad, you are ignorant. If you think all vaccines are good, you are ignorant.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40191 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:04 am to
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I think the issue to many has been: 1/I still get COVID,


The virus has mutated enough that if someone’s only immunity to it came from infection or vaccination in 2020-2021 against the original covid strain their immunity isn’t enough to protect them from the new mutated strains.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114040 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:06 am to
quote:

who hasn't left my home in 18 months


This is sarcasm right?

Your immune system weakens if you are not around people much and or not exposed to things your body has to fight off.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7853 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:10 am to
I must have missed the part where they found that the shots prevented people from getting or spreading Covid. So why are you calling it a vaccine again?
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6819 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:10 am to
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So how’d you find this article, champ?


Reading the AMA daily briefs during my morning dump. I then read the actual study in the BMJ. I posted the Hill story because BMJ is behind a firewall.


You got any specifics from the actual study that make it believable. The story you posted makes it seem like complete bs.

1. Almost 20 million people about 50/50 for vaccinated. Need a ton more details on this sample. A size that large was probably just an analysis of random data and not something done specifically for the study, so what was the criteria when they were looking at who to include?

2. The story you posted had blanket percentages for all the major vaccines. I'm sure that's an average for all and the actual study breaks it down further. It's a garbage article because for a sample size that large, there is no reason to not be specific when posting the results. It is not quality writing to use an average across the results in scientific writing, unless they didn't even bother to breakdown the results by type. In either case, your source is garbage and it makes it look like the actual source of the study is garbage as well.
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6819 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:15 am to
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The virus has mutated enough that if someone’s only immunity to it came from infection or vaccination in 2020-2021 against the original covid strain their immunity isn’t enough to protect them from the new mutated strains.


Nor is that vaccination taken in that same time period.
How much is your weekly cut to spew this kind of garbage and sell these shots?
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10151 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:18 am to
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The BMJ is a weekly peer-reviewed medical journal, published by BMJ Group, which in turn is wholly-owned by the British Medical Association.


I know nothing about The BMJ but it's going to be a hard sell for most knowing this. Kind of like trusting the AMA.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40191 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:21 am to
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You got any specifics from the actual study that make it believable.


They are in the BMJ study that I linked in the OP. I am busy seeing patients in clinic this morning. I went post the important things from the BMJ article during my lunch break or this evening if I have time.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84304 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:25 am to
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If you go back and read my post history, you’ll see that I was always skeptical of the claims that non-N95 masks stopped or resulted transmission.


You had some god awful takes during covid. Don't try to gaslight people now
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 9:25 am
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
42299 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:25 am to
Interesting- I know someone who was in the Covid vax trials and he got blood clots from the vaccine

So, this is very interesting
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Where I Am
Member since Nov 2011
2521 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:29 am to
Please, refrain from taking this study as motivation to continue pushing the mutation juice to your patients. The promoting you have done already is bad enough. Just do right now. It is the only redemption for you that might be possible.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89613 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:34 am to
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Breaking news….cigarettes reduce the risk of lung cancer




Well, who are you going to believe? Doctors who aren't really scientists in the first place or the world's leading experts at the Tobacco Institute?
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5307 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:48 am to
That’s great and all, but can you tell us why the govt would redact their entire study on vaccine and myocarditis?

LINK

Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40191 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:58 am to
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Please, refrain from taking this study as motivation to continue pushing the mutation juice to your patients.


I don’t push the vaccine on my patients unless they have comorbidities that put them at high risk for serious complications. For my relatively healthy patients I say something like “the CDC recommends a covid vaccine or booster. However, given that you are relatively healthy it’s not a pressing issue for you. If you want it then I recommend going to your pharmacy and getting it because my clinic doesn’t carry it. Do you have any questions about it?” If they say no then I document it accordingly and move on with the visit.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40191 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:59 am to
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You had some god awful takes during covid


My takes or opinions were always based on the best evidence available. With a little bit of sarcasm and trolling thrown in for shits and giggles.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40191 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 10:08 am to
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But the medical journals DID print it. And you were skeptical of it. Well, don't be surprised that people are now skeptical of EVERYTHING they do


I was skeptical of the mask stuff because the studies were just a review of cases of covid vs timeline of mask mandates with a vague outcome. Those were very poor studies with weak evidence to support their findings. This is a cohort study that including 20 million people and specific outcomes studied. Not as good as a randomized prospective clinical trial but still pretty strong research.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40191 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 10:09 am to
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That’s great and all, but can you tell us why the govt would redact their entire study on vaccine and myocarditis?


I was not involved in that study or the decision making process for the redactions. So I have no f**king idea. However, I would never trust anything posted on natural news.
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 10:12 am
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