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re: New Biodiesel Mandate Expected to be a Boon for U.S. Soy Farmers
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:10 am to Enadious
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:10 am to Enadious
Great. I eat the shite out of corn. Love the stuff
But:
40% of the corn grown is going to lessen fuel efficiency and wear down your engines
But:
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In the United States, roughly 35% to 40% of total agricultural corn is used for fuel (ethanol), while about 10% to 15% is used directly for human food (including sweeteners and cereals). The largest single slice—around 35% to 40%—is actually used for livestock feed.
40% of the corn grown is going to lessen fuel efficiency and wear down your engines
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:33 am to ragincajun03
No more food to fuel insanity.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:43 am to ragincajun03
As someone who grew up on a soybean farm, I do not agree with this.
We should not be using food products for fuel.
We should not be using food products for fuel.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:56 am to ragincajun03
I write about this stuff for a living.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:01 am to ragincajun03
I know the EPA had mandated biofuels for years, and all the refiners already spent a bunch of capital building biodiesel units the last decade. I'm sure that's who is lobbying to increase the production if they are only running at 50% capacity.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 10:00 am to fightin tigers
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The feed for renewable is more than they can sell the product for at this point.
Yeah, my understanding is that we basically overbuilt renewable diesel units and now there’s a shortage of raw tallow.
Which.. makes sense that it would be a boon to soybean farmers, if the “solution” is to ramp up vegetable oil production to fill that gap.
Seems like it kind of defeats the purpose though. These renewable diesel plants were originally making diesel from waste products. If they’re ramping up vegetable oil production to compensate, that means you have to grow the soybeans (using a lot of fertilizers, pesticides, water, etc.), refine them to vegetable oil (using hexane), hydrotreat the vegetable oil (using hydrogen produced from natural gas), and then process into finished fuel that is still chemically identical to petroleum diesel.
At some point you have to ask yourself “what is the point of this?”
Posted on 6/1/26 at 10:05 am to lostinbr
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At some point you have to ask yourself “what is the point of this?”
1 - Global Warming...err...Climate Change?
2 - We're going to run out of oil?
3 - Iowa is the first state caucus to cast votes in the Presidential Primaries?
Posted on 6/1/26 at 10:11 am to lowhound
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I know the EPA had mandated biofuels for years, and all the refiners already spent a bunch of capital building biodiesel units the last decade. I'm sure that's who is lobbying to increase the production if they are only running at 50% capacity.
I agree. Take a company like Valero, who has invested a ton of capital into renewable diesel over the past decade or so. They want a return on that investment.
Valero, P66, Marathon, Chevron, and PBF all have significant US investments in renewable diesel. Those are 5 of the 6 largest refiners in the country.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 10:37 am to Oilfieldbiology
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This is all fricking stupid.
They take good ideas for very specific situations and try to mass produce the idea without the need. For instance, Disney world uses old cooking grease as bio-diesel for their boats. That's a great idea because the input costs zero for boat diesel. You can't repeat that niche market everywhere.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 10:41 am to lostinbr
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At some point you have to ask yourself “what is the point of this?”
It is a government subsidized industry. Government turning tax dollars and citizen's money into profits for private corporations.
There is no environmental benefit unless you conflate growing plants as a green industry. Those fields could be timber land and providing more green benefit.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:42 am to Ingeniero
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Whoever lines the pockets the best gets the favors done,
There is a reason Iowa is the first presidential primary state.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 12:06 pm to fightin tigers
What percentage of total income do you think a farmer makes from government subsidy payments?
Posted on 6/1/26 at 12:20 pm to wareaglepete
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What percentage of total income do you think a farmer makes from government subsidy payments?
I couldn't even venture a guess. Wouldn't know direct vs indirect either.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 12:50 pm to ragincajun03
We love our small gov't Republicans, don't we folks? We have the best small gov't Republicans.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 1:00 pm to LittleJerrySeinfield
quote:Why would anyone in government be for smaller government?
We love our small gov't Republicans, don't we folks? We have the best small gov't Republicans.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 1:15 pm to Night Vision
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Nazi's got most of their diesel from coal.
That was dirty Nazi coal not the beautiful clean coal we have in the US.
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