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re: New Biodiesel Mandate Expected to be a Boon for U.S. Soy Farmers

Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:10 am to
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
50008 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:10 am to
Great. I eat the shite out of corn. Love the stuff


But:
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In the United States, roughly 35% to 40% of total agricultural corn is used for fuel (ethanol), while about 10% to 15% is used directly for human food (including sweeteners and cereals). The largest single slice—around 35% to 40%—is actually used for livestock feed.

40% of the corn grown is going to lessen fuel efficiency and wear down your engines
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26638 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:33 am to
No more food to fuel insanity.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77398 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:34 am to
Biodiesel is retarded.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35701 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:43 am to
As someone who grew up on a soybean farm, I do not agree with this.

We should not be using food products for fuel.
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
47507 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:56 am to
I write about this stuff for a living.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
10450 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:01 am to
I know the EPA had mandated biofuels for years, and all the refiners already spent a bunch of capital building biodiesel units the last decade. I'm sure that's who is lobbying to increase the production if they are only running at 50% capacity.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12860 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 10:00 am to
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The feed for renewable is more than they can sell the product for at this point.

Yeah, my understanding is that we basically overbuilt renewable diesel units and now there’s a shortage of raw tallow.

Which.. makes sense that it would be a boon to soybean farmers, if the “solution” is to ramp up vegetable oil production to fill that gap.

Seems like it kind of defeats the purpose though. These renewable diesel plants were originally making diesel from waste products. If they’re ramping up vegetable oil production to compensate, that means you have to grow the soybeans (using a lot of fertilizers, pesticides, water, etc.), refine them to vegetable oil (using hexane), hydrotreat the vegetable oil (using hydrogen produced from natural gas), and then process into finished fuel that is still chemically identical to petroleum diesel.

At some point you have to ask yourself “what is the point of this?”
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29304 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 10:05 am to
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At some point you have to ask yourself “what is the point of this?”


1 - Global Warming...err...Climate Change?
2 - We're going to run out of oil?
3 - Iowa is the first state caucus to cast votes in the Presidential Primaries?
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12860 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 10:11 am to
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I know the EPA had mandated biofuels for years, and all the refiners already spent a bunch of capital building biodiesel units the last decade. I'm sure that's who is lobbying to increase the production if they are only running at 50% capacity.

I agree. Take a company like Valero, who has invested a ton of capital into renewable diesel over the past decade or so. They want a return on that investment.

Valero, P66, Marathon, Chevron, and PBF all have significant US investments in renewable diesel. Those are 5 of the 6 largest refiners in the country.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Member since Jul 2018
8146 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 10:37 am to
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This is all fricking stupid.


They take good ideas for very specific situations and try to mass produce the idea without the need. For instance, Disney world uses old cooking grease as bio-diesel for their boats. That's a great idea because the input costs zero for boat diesel. You can't repeat that niche market everywhere.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78585 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 10:41 am to
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At some point you have to ask yourself “what is the point of this?”


It is a government subsidized industry. Government turning tax dollars and citizen's money into profits for private corporations.

There is no environmental benefit unless you conflate growing plants as a green industry. Those fields could be timber land and providing more green benefit.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16363 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:42 am to
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Whoever lines the pockets the best gets the favors done,

There is a reason Iowa is the first presidential primary state.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18679 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 12:06 pm to
What percentage of total income do you think a farmer makes from government subsidy payments?

Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78585 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 12:20 pm to
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What percentage of total income do you think a farmer makes from government subsidy payments?


I couldn't even venture a guess. Wouldn't know direct vs indirect either.
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
350,000 Post Karma
Member since Aug 2013
11343 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 12:50 pm to
We love our small gov't Republicans, don't we folks? We have the best small gov't Republicans.
Posted by White Bear
Homeless
Member since Jul 2014
17686 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 1:00 pm to
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We love our small gov't Republicans, don't we folks? We have the best small gov't Republicans.
Why would anyone in government be for smaller government? Conservatism is just as idealistic as libertarianism.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109363 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 1:15 pm to
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Nazi's got most of their diesel from coal.


That was dirty Nazi coal not the beautiful clean coal we have in the US.
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