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re: nevermind
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:17 am to CalcuttaTigah
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:17 am to CalcuttaTigah
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This all sounds like bullshite to me. If he can write SQL and wire up RPA, why would he ever have such a mind numbing job data entry in the first place? I didn't read it all so maybe it goes into that....I guess it is believable but this story Is likely made up.
Good paying job that let's him work from home.
He also probably didn't reinvent the wheel here. Sounds like he works for old folks home or something that isn't very tech savvy.
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:20 am to The Baker
Is he producing?
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:26 am to Rouge
quote:
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The company legally owns the code since it was created for the purpose of company use and in the course of company time
Sorry for ruining your day by not being up to date on copyright law. You'll live though.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:29 am to 420centraltime
This board. If a person manipulates the welfare system, a politician gets rich catering to lobbyists rather than constituents or a company uses loopholes to avoid paying taxes, people loose their shite. Propose a relatable situation and suddenly the championing of ethics and principles falls off dramatically. If you can get away with it and get yours, screw em. Pot/kettle, glass houses, etc, etc.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:30 am to The Baker
I kinda did this at my last job. Just made about half my job do itself. It made my job very easy but very boring. Then I got fired, but I deleted everything I did to automate my job before I left.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:31 am to Wolfhound45
I was a webmaster at a company for a couple years. The previous webmaster was a graphic design major and it took him most of the day to make all the daily updates. He would actually drag the cursor to select all the text on a page and then right click -> copy instead of ctrl +a, ctrl + c, etc.
Well after he left I did the same job in about 40 minutes that took him 8 hours.
I felt bad about getting paid for 8 hours for 1 hour off work so I went to my bosses to talk about projects to further improve the website but they didn't want to change anything.
So after that I just did my job and spent most of the day fricking off.
Well after he left I did the same job in about 40 minutes that took him 8 hours.
I felt bad about getting paid for 8 hours for 1 hour off work so I went to my bosses to talk about projects to further improve the website but they didn't want to change anything.
So after that I just did my job and spent most of the day fricking off.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:34 am to athenslife101
quote:
Your job is to work and you are paid to work. If you have freed up your schedule by ingenuity, your company should be giving you more work to compensate.
Spoken like a true company man.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:35 am to athenslife101
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How's that leash around your neck feel?
How's that leash around your neck feel?
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:36 am to PaperPaintball92
quote:
You don't sell time! You sell results! Despite what everyone says here, you do not sell 40 hours of data entry per week, you sell the result processing X spreadsheets
This. Who cares how it gets done?
I agree with this
You don't sell time! You sell results! Despite what everyone says here, you do not sell 40 hours of data entry per week, you sell the result processing X spreadsheets
This. Who cares how it gets done?
I agree with this
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:38 am to Arkapigdiesel
quote:
Spoken like a true company man.
Or a man that sees more work as more pay, more responsibility, more opportunity, more challenges...
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:41 am to The Baker
I would continue doing what you're doing, and find another job. Double pay day.
Or
Go talk to a lawyer and make sure you legally own the code you created, and not your company through some loophole (on their time or dime). Then I'd offer to sell it to them.
Or
Go talk to a lawyer and make sure you legally own the code you created, and not your company through some loophole (on their time or dime). Then I'd offer to sell it to them.
This post was edited on 6/30/17 at 8:51 am
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:41 am to athenslife101
quote:
If you have freed up your schedule by ingenuity, your company should be giving you more work to compensate.
Along with a ton more cash since it is all about ethics and morals.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:42 am to The Baker
If he's doing the job the company hired him to do, what difference does it make that he's found an easier and more efficient way to do it.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:47 am to LSU Wayne
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As if companies are making pure ethical decisions with regard to its employees on a daily basis. Screw that. Milk it.
That attitude is fine as long as we agree it's unethical for one, possibly two reasons.
1) He is knowingly and actively turning out an inferior result in order to cover his tracks.
2) If he's paid hourly, I've got a major problem charging for 40 hours of work per week for 10 minutes of activity. I understand there is downtime for many employees, but nothing close to that ratio.
People suggesting he should do nothing different are understandable given the way many companies treat employees, but it is still unethical.
This post was edited on 6/30/17 at 8:53 am
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:51 am to The Baker
You get paid to do a job. You don't get paid to take a required amount of time to do the job. If it's a career company maybe you show them your value. If not ride it out and take some vacations.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:36 am to RJL2
quote:
but I deleted everything I did to automate my job before I left.
This is what I was thinking. Couldn't he just bring it to his bosses and one of two outcomes would happen. He gets praised and offered a promotion or they fire him. If the latter happens, could he just delete the program?
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:47 am to The Baker
Very tough issue, don't expect me to have the definitive answer.
HOWEVER, he is a civilian working for a civilian company. He has no sacred duty to selflessly serve that company.
HOWEVER, he is a civilian working for a civilian company. He has no sacred duty to selflessly serve that company.
This post was edited on 6/30/17 at 9:47 am
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:54 am to The Baker
Interesting case, and it does feel like it's right on the middle point if you will. I want to side with he is paid to do a job, and he is doing that job. But the idea that he's putting fake bugs and what not in, he's admitting to some sort of deception and attempts to hide what he's doing, so that certainly can fall under the guise of unethical.
I managed a team a couple of years ago that the role couldn't quite be automated like this guy did, but they needed to do 80 accounts per day and most worked from home.
I told them many times in no uncertain terms, if you can do your 80 accounts in 2 hours or 4 hours and you want to kick your legs up the rest of the day, that's fine with me as long as you meet your productivity requirements and are available by phone or IM if I or anyone else in the company needs you to assist with anything.
My personal take was that each team member had a set list of responsibilities, and if they can meet those responsibilities in less than 8 hours per day, that was all I needed out of them. Of course, it would be great if they went above and beyond, and to be honest, I'm pretty sure they did 99% of the time based on the results. But as long as you check off every box to meet minimum requirements, that was fine with me.
I managed a team a couple of years ago that the role couldn't quite be automated like this guy did, but they needed to do 80 accounts per day and most worked from home.
I told them many times in no uncertain terms, if you can do your 80 accounts in 2 hours or 4 hours and you want to kick your legs up the rest of the day, that's fine with me as long as you meet your productivity requirements and are available by phone or IM if I or anyone else in the company needs you to assist with anything.
My personal take was that each team member had a set list of responsibilities, and if they can meet those responsibilities in less than 8 hours per day, that was all I needed out of them. Of course, it would be great if they went above and beyond, and to be honest, I'm pretty sure they did 99% of the time based on the results. But as long as you check off every box to meet minimum requirements, that was fine with me.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:57 am to Champagne
I was hired for a specific job. My boss expects me to do that job while working 40 hours a week. I'm honestly conflicted on this. You could always put the extra time to self training and better yourself for your future and for your company. On the other hand, if you become too efficient you can process yourself right out of a job. It's a tough one. Companies are all about the bottom line. Few companies these days actually care about their employees, at least in my experience. I think if you're meeting/exceeding expectations, then that's all you're really required to do. Make yourself indispensable.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:01 am to The Baker
If he was smart he'd use some of that extra time to take free agent work and really up his income.
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