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re: nevermind
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:02 am to The Baker
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:02 am to The Baker
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You don't sell time! You sell results!
This is honestly the best part about being a programmer. In every job I've ever had if we meet deadlines with quality work that meets client requirements we can pretty much take off whenever we need.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:11 am to The Baker
I have done the same thing at my job auto aka automated a manual process freeing up more time. But because Im in the office I did the last sentence!
If you left..they would have to pay someone to do your job the old way so it doesn't matter as you are benefiting from your skills and the company is getting what they pay for whether it be you or another person. Enjoy the fruits of your labor.
In fact, If I was you ( I was) I would ask for more work and MORE money from the employer.
If you left..they would have to pay someone to do your job the old way so it doesn't matter as you are benefiting from your skills and the company is getting what they pay for whether it be you or another person. Enjoy the fruits of your labor.
In fact, If I was you ( I was) I would ask for more work and MORE money from the employer.
This post was edited on 6/30/17 at 10:12 am
Posted on 6/30/17 at 5:30 pm to The Baker
If the job took 60 hours one week, would the company offer to pay him extra? If not, I would say that they've established that they are paying for a specific task and not for time. I think putting the errors in there is a bit shady though.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 5:48 pm to The Baker
Not shady at all, add in bugs though, that's kind of shady
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:22 pm to The Baker
that is stupidest post ever posted here and that is saying a lot.
your basic question is should I fire myself from a good paying job and give away my own personal intellectual property I used to make my job no longer required
gee I don't know what you should do
your basic question is should I fire myself from a good paying job and give away my own personal intellectual property I used to make my job no longer required
gee I don't know what you should do
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:31 pm to The Baker
They are paying him to do a job. Time involved really doesn't matter. If he's delivering accurate work on time, the company already concluded it's worth what they pay him.
Absolutely zero ethical conflict for someone that works remotely on a single task.
Absolutely zero ethical conflict for someone that works remotely on a single task.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:45 pm to The Baker
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So what used to take the last guy like a month, now takes maybe 10 minutes to clean the spreadsheet and run it through the program.
Yeah, call me overly cautious, but I'm not sure I'd trust that. Sounds a little too good to be true.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 7:24 pm to The Baker
I would promote him as I love this being a small business owner. Big company once you tell them your secret you are gone.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:23 pm to keakar
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:33 pm to AUsteriskPride
Imo it comes down to are they paying him hourly to work 40 hours or are they paying him a salary to do a job? If they are paying him salary I don't see an issue, except for where he adds bugs that's just weak.
Honestly if I was him I'd of started to look for a new job, then once he got hired elsewhere take it to his boss.
Furthermore, his supervisors must be pretty terrible if they don't know that they could of made a program to make a spreadsheet.
Honestly if I was him I'd of started to look for a new job, then once he got hired elsewhere take it to his boss.
Furthermore, his supervisors must be pretty terrible if they don't know that they could of made a program to make a spreadsheet.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:34 pm to The Baker
What jobs are not automated?
No seriously, that's just how some things are.
I worked on a project in which all I did was go through a bunch of Instrumental P&IDs, circle all the parts on the drawings that connect so that I could then go into a database to make sure the drawings and database had the same information, if not, I had to select + or -. I did that shite every day for about 14 months.
I'd get a stack.. I'd say on average, was about 10" and I would grab a drawing, circle the areas I had to check, match it up in database, make changes if necessary, then repeat. There were times when I would have 3 or 4 stacks on my desk. It was the most mindless work I ever did. There were times when I would finish a day or two before they brought me more and since I was charging to that project, I couldn't do anything on other projects, if someone needed help so I would have a day or two... Sometimes even more, when I would go to work and have absolutely nothing to do.
On another project, my job was to build a database. There was a certain goal that had to be met and I had to take the information given to me to customize the database once I created it, as much that went into the first part of it, it got to the point where everything was created to do what was needed so after that it was just getting the data, plugging it in and then spit out reports, but I would think to some degree this will happen to a lot of people.
No seriously, that's just how some things are.
I worked on a project in which all I did was go through a bunch of Instrumental P&IDs, circle all the parts on the drawings that connect so that I could then go into a database to make sure the drawings and database had the same information, if not, I had to select + or -. I did that shite every day for about 14 months.
I'd get a stack.. I'd say on average, was about 10" and I would grab a drawing, circle the areas I had to check, match it up in database, make changes if necessary, then repeat. There were times when I would have 3 or 4 stacks on my desk. It was the most mindless work I ever did. There were times when I would finish a day or two before they brought me more and since I was charging to that project, I couldn't do anything on other projects, if someone needed help so I would have a day or two... Sometimes even more, when I would go to work and have absolutely nothing to do.
On another project, my job was to build a database. There was a certain goal that had to be met and I had to take the information given to me to customize the database once I created it, as much that went into the first part of it, it got to the point where everything was created to do what was needed so after that it was just getting the data, plugging it in and then spit out reports, but I would think to some degree this will happen to a lot of people.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:48 pm to DoctorTechnical
I think he's fine.
I'm efficient as frick at work. I lay and organize everything. I taught myself out SAP system as an hourly hand and pretty much eliminated the need for my boss. He has no idea what I do and my jobs are critical. I have spare supplies and everything mapped out.
My efficiency is awesome and some days I'm done by 930 in the morning unless I get a call. The reward for working smart and efficient and putting in a ton of thought process in my job is I don't have to work NEAR as hard as the other guys and we get paid the same.
They work 8 and I work 2.5 hours. Piss on it, good for me for being efficient and putting in the planning and learning for years to get where I'm at the point I am.
Same as this guy. Use your brain and don't feel bad about it.
I'm efficient as frick at work. I lay and organize everything. I taught myself out SAP system as an hourly hand and pretty much eliminated the need for my boss. He has no idea what I do and my jobs are critical. I have spare supplies and everything mapped out.
My efficiency is awesome and some days I'm done by 930 in the morning unless I get a call. The reward for working smart and efficient and putting in a ton of thought process in my job is I don't have to work NEAR as hard as the other guys and we get paid the same.
They work 8 and I work 2.5 hours. Piss on it, good for me for being efficient and putting in the planning and learning for years to get where I'm at the point I am.
Same as this guy. Use your brain and don't feel bad about it.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:01 pm to burdman
quote:
The company is paying him to do a job. He is doing said job. Whether that takes him 3 hours or 3 weeks, I don't see the problem. He's delivering the product they want within the timeframe they want.
ETA: IMO it would be unethical if the company asked him to take on more and he said that he didn't have any time to do more. But under his current circumstances, I don't see a problem.
Exactly, the company is paying him to perform a specific task. Why is it unethical that he found a way to reduce that time frame to a fraction of what it takes others.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:10 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Take care of you first. A company will fire you the first chance they get. You are doing the job you are paid to do. Nothing else matters.
Don't over think this
Don't over think this
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:41 pm to YogaPants
Once I learned SQL my job became cake. Any self respecting analyst needs to learn SQL.
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