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re: Neil Riser's Bill Eliminates Personal Income Tax in LA

Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:38 pm to
I do not support this one bit. Rent will go up for renters because landlords will pass the higher cost down, mortgage notes will go up for homeowners, and people will spend less. Louisiana is not a state that can get away with something like this like Texas, Florida, and Tennessee can. We’re full of uneducated residents and this will backfire.

I hate this idea here in Louisiana.




Edited to clarify mortgage notes - not rates.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 11:19 pm
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 4:00 pm to
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I hate this idea here in Louisiana.


I kind of agree. If you make $100k a year then you are in the 4.25% bracket, but your effective tax is ~2.83%.

So right now you pay ~$2830 in income tax a year. If they go to just property tax and set it around 2%then you are going to end up paying more.

And you already know they would have to exempt all the “poor” people from the property tax increase.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
14954 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:30 pm to
Hell will freeze over before that happens.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
40367 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:02 pm to
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I kind of agree. If you make $100k a year then you are in the 4.25% bracket, but your effective tax is ~2.83%.


Ok. And now add in LA property taxes.



Your effective tax rate in Louisiana isn’t just your income tax.

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
40367 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:03 pm to
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mortgage rates will go up for homeowners,


What?
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
7604 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 2:46 am to
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question for the floor: how high of a sales tax would you be willing to take if it meant no income and property taxes?


Wouldn’t matter. I’d just take my Washington parish arse to Columbia for groceries.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86405 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:08 am to
Brandon is lying again



quote:

resident Biden @POTUS House Republicans have proposed a new 23% national sales tax on American families, increasing the prices of everything from groceries and gas to food and medicine. American families need more breathing room. Not less.



Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
73057 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:26 am to
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Property tax needs to go too. Only sales tax should be allowed.
Found your license plate:

Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
15773 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:35 am to
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question for the floor: how high of a sales tax would you be willing to take if it meant no income and property taxes?

Wouldn’t it be better to start with a better question- How much would sales tax need to go up to be revenue neutral with an abolishment of state income and property tax?

Then we can contemplate other usage fees or needless expenses that we can start to frick with to lower the sales tax rate.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41899 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:01 am to
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Wouldn’t it be better to start with a better question- How much would sales tax need to go up to be revenue neutral with an abolishment of state income and property tax? Then we can contemplate other usage fees or needless expenses that we can start to frick with to lower the sales tax rate.


I posted this earlier. State sales tax would have to roughly double to about 9 cents. That would be enough to offset the elimination of the income tax provided there is no drop in sales (which probably is unrealistic).
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41899 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:03 am to
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Ok. And now add in LA property taxes.


The state doesn’t collect property taxes. They are all local.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46286 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:18 am to
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question for the floor: how high of a sales tax would you be willing to take if it meant no income and property taxes?


Get too high and people will travel out of state for many large purchases
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41899 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:25 am to
Louisiana revenue breakdown using Fiscal Year 2022 numbers.

Individual income tax 4.55B or 29.2%
Corp. franchise or income 1.40B or 9%
Premium Ins. Taxes and fees 1.20B or 7.7%
Gaming 1.00B or 6.4%
Mineral Revenues 709Million or 4.5%
Gas & Fuels 621 M or 4%
Sales tax 4.97B or 31.9%
Other revenues 1.13B or 2.3%

Total 15.6 Billion in taxes, licenses, and fees.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20594 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 8:59 am to
This is what I am seeing. You have to make a lot of money in LA for it to even out or have less tax burden in TX. Property taxes in Houston suburbs in a 420K is approx 13K. You have to be making a chunk of $ in LA to pay that much in state income taxes.
This post was edited on 4/6/24 at 9:44 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41899 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 2:32 pm to
In La. property taxes help fund local government. Is it that way in Texas? What funds Texas state government?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52922 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 2:40 pm to
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This is how Texas gets away with it and yet people think it’s such a big difference not paying state income tax. The states gonna get their money one way or another


That’s just it: it doesn’t.


The biggest difference is that property taxes keeps most of the money local, as opposed to going into a big pot that gets wasted on pork, pet projects, and catering for committees before ever going back to the communities they came from. Most of the state budget comes from sales taxes.

Per capita, Texas’s state budget is smaller than LA, and has vastly superior services and resources.
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
7013 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 3:56 pm to
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This is how Texas gets away with it and yet people think it’s such a big difference not paying state income tax.


It is, for us we would pay double what we do now if there was an income tax in Texas.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 4/6/24 at 4:06 pm to
5xs your P&I
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/6/24 at 4:07 pm to
10%
Posted by GusMcRae
Deep in the heart of the Big Sleazy
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/6/24 at 4:22 pm to
Tom Green County, Jefferson County.

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