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re: Need AA Flight 77 Pentagon Crash Opinion

Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:40 pm to
No doubt. Let the loons self-identify
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8677 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:41 pm to
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How in the hell does that not raise any red flags

The same as American assets in Japan telling the US intelligence apparatus, circa Nov 1941, that the entire Japanese fleet has put to sea and nobody knows where they are going.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:42 pm to
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They saw a cruise missle. It didn't hit the ground, it didn't skid. It didn't cartwheel.
This is what happened according to you "just cause"

No other reason, "just cause"
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38299 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:44 pm to
That's the one I referenced. You can only see 150 feet or so out of the lawn.

Face it, if a "straight-ahead birds eye view" pic existed that shows what you claim it shows, you'd lead with that pic, and focus solely on that pic, as it would be irrefutable evidence.

But such a pic doesn't exist so you don't.
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 3:53 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:44 pm to
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You mean those up close staged pictures? Come on man. Do better.

Explain what happened to Flight 77 and its passengers.
Posted by SBGRosco
Member since Apr 2023
75 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:45 pm to
I just don’t see evidence of a massive amount of aviation fuel having burned up in that hole. The sides of the hole in numerous pics like this one just don’t resemble anything close to the same aviation fuel explosion/fire that caused the twin towers to eventually collapse. Based on what we saw of the twin towers impacts/explosions, there should’ve been one hell of a larger explosion here upon impact & then a significant burn thereafter. It just doesn’t look right imo & for the record I don’t care about any of the inside job, etc. theories. The truth is all I’m interested in. The 2 towers & this just never looked anywhere near similar. Not to mention that D.C. was & is one of the most surveilled cities in the world. Surely we could put this this entire conversation to rest by presenting more video from that day from other cameras around the city…..? I don’t want to hear from “witnesses”. Just show me original footage from around D.C. that day or else explain to me how NY has 100’s+ videos of the 2 planes hitting the towers from that day yet there’s only 1 video from D.C.
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24077 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:47 pm to
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Also all of the people who were sitting in DC traffic literally a tenth mile away on the freeway as the plane flew right above them.


Arlington* traffic.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:48 pm to
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There are a dozen pictures easily accessible online from the Moussaoui trial that show plane debris, human remains, and charred bodies still in their seats
Cajunhawk, what are your thoughts on this?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38299 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:51 pm to
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I just don’t see evidence of a massive amount of aviation fuel having burned up in that hole.
Interesting. What are your credentials regarding fire forensics?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30392 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:52 pm to
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I just don’t see evidence of a massive amount of aviation fuel having burned up in that hole.


Does it look like a Tomahawk hit it?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87260 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:55 pm to
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Yeah if I recall they asked the flight school to learn how to fly but not takeoff or land. How in the hell does that not raise any red flags especially when its young men of middle eastern descent?



I'm not sure if that was ever confirmed. But obviously Moussaoui was reported to the FBI, and the FBI was made aware of a suspiciously large number of middle eastern flight students prior to 9/11 I think.

Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8798 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:56 pm to
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I just don’t see evidence of a massive amount of aviation fuel having burned up in that hole. The sides of the hole in numerous pics like this one just don’t resemble anything close to the same aviation fuel explosion/fire that caused the twin towers to eventually collapse. Based on what we saw of the twin towers impacts/explosions, there should’ve been one hell of a larger explosion here upon impact & then a significant burn thereafter. It just doesn’t look right imo & for the record I don’t care about any of the inside job, etc. theories. The truth is all I’m interested in. The 2 towers & this just never looked anywhere near similar. Not to mention that D.C. was & is one of the most surveilled cities in the world. Surely we could put this this entire conversation to rest by presenting more video from that day from other cameras around the city…..? I don’t want to hear from “witnesses”. Just show me original footage from around D.C. that day or else explain to me how NY has 100’s+ videos of the 2 planes hitting the towers from that day yet there’s only 1 video from D.C.

yes, yes. sure sure sure.

so what happened to flight 77?
Posted by spiderman
Member since Jan 2004
1354 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 4:02 pm to
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Just show me original footage from around D.C. that day or else explain to me how NY has 100’s+ videos of the 2 planes hitting the towers from that day yet there’s only 1 video from D.C.
Easy. Only 2 videos exist of the first plane hitting the north tower. 1 was because a French film crew happened to be filming a documentary on NYC firefighters and happened to capture the footage while luckily filming in the street with a view of the tower. The other video is someone filming while riding in a car and accidentally captured the impact. No other video exists. No surveillance. Nothing. In the most populated city in America. In 2001 nobody had cell phone cameras. And nobody anticipated the attack on the first tower just like nobody anticipated the pentagon would be hit. We have so many videos of the 2nd plane hitting the 2nd tower bc news stations and journalists were already filming the 1st tower on fire.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8798 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 4:05 pm to
the conspiracy theorists seem to have piped down.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92039 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 4:06 pm to
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the conspiracy theorists seem to have piped down.


an American Airlines B-757 hit the Pentagon as flight 77 on 9/11/2001
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38299 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 4:08 pm to
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The 2 towers & this just never looked anywhere near similar.
Since you're 'just asking questions', I have one for you. If two different buildings, differing significantly in both design and material, were set on fire, should we expect the fire to behave exactly the same?
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2539 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 4:11 pm to
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8798 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 4:15 pm to
why are you linking that in response to my post
Posted by SBGRosco
Member since Apr 2023
75 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 4:36 pm to
I’m just Average Joe with a bit of critical thinking. The impact explosions at the 2 towers & the same @ the Pentagon look dramatically different based on all of the footage I’ve ever seen. Do I really have to be credentialed somehow to notice something that seems so obvious to the commoner?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41016 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 4:39 pm to
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The impact explosions at the 2 towers & the same @ the Pentagon look dramatically different based on all of the footage I’ve ever seen.


Really?

Because the only explosion impact footage we have of the pentagon looks pretty damn similar to the WTC impact explosions.

What videos are you watching?
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