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re: Need AA Flight 77 Pentagon Crash Opinion

Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38299 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:31 pm to
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Why would a deeper ring have a No Parking sign?
A ten second look at google maps shows me that cars also park in the inner rings.
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Plus it's listed on the FBI's website as a photo of the exterior.
It's the exterior wall of an inner ring. Any more brain busters?
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
42251 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:42 pm to
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Plus it's listed on the FBI's website as a photo of the exterior.


There is an exterior on both sides of each ring



Eta in reference to the no parking sign…the pentagon is huge. They have delivery vehicles that operate inside the rings.
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 2:44 pm
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2832 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:54 pm to
A friend of mine helped clean that up. It absolutely wasn’t a missile

He said it was an actual aircraft full of people. He described a bit of what he saw and I was convinced..

Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
46134 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:58 pm to
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He said it was an actual aircraft full of people. He described a bit of what he saw and I was convinced..


There are a dozen pictures easily accessible online from the Moussaoui trial that show plane debris, human remains, and charred bodies still in their seats. Some of the most sobering photos I’ve seen on the internet.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
42251 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:12 pm to



I guess they sent another cruise missile to take out that truck and knock down the fence
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 3:12 pm
Posted by spiderman
Member since Jan 2004
1354 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:16 pm to
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More half assed eye witnesses. They all don't know what they saw...and conflict other statements repeatedly. They saw a cruise missle. It didn't hit the ground, it didn't skid. It didn't cartwheel. It punched a perfect hole in the walls...before the floors collapsed...conveniently.
Yes, the hundreds of witnesses that said they watched an airplane fly over the highway and into the building are all lying or stupid and don't know what a commercial airliner looks like. We should believe a nut like you and not the actual eyewitness. Do you dispute that 2 airplanes crashed into the WTC? I bet you don't, b/c their is video evidence. If you believe they did then how is it inconceivable that a 3rd plane hit the pentagon, just as the eyewitnesses said? I guess you also believe someone then went around spreading American Airline parts all over the Pentagon lawn after the "cruise missle" struck. You are a moron.
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 3:19 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38299 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:19 pm to
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Try this one. You may have to move eyes left, right, up and down to piece all of the pic into your perspective. Zoom in as needed and note all obstacles in the way and their respective and obvious heights and distances. From far left lanes of highway inward. Imagine the plane as slightly larger than a tent.
A lot of room for human error on my part here.

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I've posted a few from different angles as well as straight bird's eye.


Do you mind just reposting this pic? I've looked back through the thread and the only picture I found that might fit this description only shows 150 feet or so of the lawn.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:24 pm to
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All conflicting information, and half assed eye witness accounts
Boy, you moved those goalposts real quick.

You claimed there were no reports from eyewitnesses stating they saw a plane. Then when exactly that was provided, you didn't concede you were wrong, which you were. You simply shifted the goalposts.

The above is bad enough, but your excuse for being basically that those people don't know what they saw and YOU know what they saw is just not very good. You gotta do better than that.
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The conflicting information is huge. Most state the plane clipped the ground. Yet the lawn was good enough for golf. How can that be?
You realize in basically every single big catastrophe type issue there are ALWAYS conflicting reports, right? Any time there's a mass shooter, for example, there are always all kinds of contradicting repots like hearing multiple shooters, etc. These are things you don't see every day, you think you see something in some exact way but it may be slightly off. Like whether the plane touched the grass or not, different people from different angles may see it differently. But if a bunch of people say they saw a plane, the overarching point is they probably saw a plane, unless you can provide an actual reason that it was not a plane, you saying, "they're wrong and didn't see a plane" does nothing to further your point.
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 3:25 pm
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
42251 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:27 pm to
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shel311


stop being reasonable
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41016 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:28 pm to
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A friend of mine helped clean that up. It absolutely wasn’t a missile He said it was an actual aircraft full of people. He described a bit of what he saw and I was convinced..


Your “friend” is obviously in on it.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
42251 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:30 pm to
his “friend” was probably a hologram created by dick cheney and Halliburton
Posted by spiderman
Member since Jan 2004
1354 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:34 pm to
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You mean those up close staged pictures? Come on man. Do better.
So up close and obviously staged.


This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 3:39 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38299 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:35 pm to
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You claimed there were no reports from eyewitnesses stating they saw a plane. Then when exactly that was provided, you didn't concede you were wrong, which you were. You simply shifted the goalposts.

The above is bad enough, but your excuse for being basically that those people don't know what they saw and YOU know what they saw is just not very good. You gotta do better than that.
All of this. Sao, does it ever give you pause that your fellow travelers in these threads are obvious idiots?
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
8965 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:35 pm to
These threads are always great for sifting OT posters into my "ignore" or my "point and laugh" categories.

If there are twelve clowns in a ring...
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:38 pm to
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Working assessments with people who have severe schizophrenia was the exact same way. They would claim the cia bugged the light bulb. When you tried to show them it wasn’t bugged it just became more evidence of the greater conspiracy.
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I miss those days so that’s why I read the poli board.

Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2832 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:38 pm to
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and charred bodies still in their seats.


He told me about the same thing. He said the bodies in the seats made it farther into the pentagon than anything else. He said “they knew who was piloting the aircraft because they looked at their ID’” or something similar. It was a long time ago.
Posted by bulletprooftiger
Member since Aug 2006
2472 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:39 pm to
That's the inside wall of the outer ring building. look at the direction the debris is going. That isn't the wall that received the direct impact.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:39 pm to
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Do you mind just reposting this pic? I've looked back through the thread and the only picture I found that might fit this description only shows 150 feet or so of the lawn.


It's this one but something tells me it won't suffice for you to piece together. Your inability to decipher simple angles has to drive you nuts playing pool

Posted by Tall Tiger
Golden Rectangle
Member since Sep 2007
4262 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:40 pm to
It's been a long time but I remember watching Barbara Olson on Fox News. She wasn't the kind of person who would agree to disappear and live off the grid the rest of her life to conceal a conspiracy that involved killing innocent people.

Only 3 of the 4 planes hit the intended targets and there may have been a fifth plane to be hijacked but wasn't that day. To act as if the events of the day were too perfectly orchestrated to have been accomplished by the highjackers themselves is contradicted by reality.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10714 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 3:40 pm to
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In your opinion, can a couple of guys who have only simulator training successfully fly a Boeing 757-223 into the East Wing of the Pentagon traveling over 550 mph and nearly dead horizontal with only 30' of altitude at impact? What is the probability IYO?

Only partially true.

A couple of guys with only simulator training actually attached a missal to the Boeing 757-223 while in mid air. They didn't know what they were doing and crashed into the East Wing of the Pentagon. When the plane made contact with the ground at 550mph, the force of impact dislodged the missal and it hit the East Wing.
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 3:54 pm
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