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re: Need a little encouragement. I have a difficult young son.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 4:28 am to DiamondDog
Posted on 2/16/25 at 4:28 am to DiamondDog
If you are gentle parenting than stop, that shite doesn't work. Also let him run around and play alot, from what you describe he is a high energy kid so let him channel that into sports and moving around alot. Give him physically challenging exercise as much as you can.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 4:42 am to DiamondDog
OP you described my nephew to a T, exact situation my brother was in. My nephew started around 4 being extremely difficult to deal with, eased up around 6. He’s 17 now and a good kid, he is on the spectrum. A little awkward socially, no common sense, extremely book smart, incredibly good manners, and all around very caring young man. My brother tried whippings and it made it worse. Others here have already given appropriate advice.
ETA: He's book smart yet has never in his life read a book. Straight As and takes all advanced courses. Doesn't even study. He would attack his mom and brother when younger, pull knives, cuss, loved seeing pain in people, fixate on things and obsess. Now is the absolute complete opposite aside from obsessing on things. Hard to think now he use to be so violent.
ETA: He's book smart yet has never in his life read a book. Straight As and takes all advanced courses. Doesn't even study. He would attack his mom and brother when younger, pull knives, cuss, loved seeing pain in people, fixate on things and obsess. Now is the absolute complete opposite aside from obsessing on things. Hard to think now he use to be so violent.
This post was edited on 2/16/25 at 5:05 am
Posted on 2/16/25 at 5:32 am to DiamondDog
The OT never disappoints… 90% of the posts have been from expert parents telling this guy he does not know what he’s doing or that he’s a pussy. I am all about spanking. My children cause me rage that can only be topped by my wife. When I was in middle school, my Dad actually spoke with my shop teacher and had me cut a paddle out of a 1x4 in front of my friends to bring home to get spanked with later that day.
This dude could be the best parent on Earth and that might not matter. All kids are different. I have a six and three year old and their brains couldn’t work more differently. Both very intelligent.
The terms autism and “on the spectrum” have become such general terms these days that they don’t really mean anything at this point. Having ADHD these days means you’re both autistic and on the spectrum.
I used to be somewhat similar to many of these posters. “Medicating your kid means you’re a lazy parent.” I ended up with personal experience that changed my opinion. I made a 34 for the English section of the ACT in high school, but I can’t read a book if my life depended on it. I can read a how to book (for example, I passed both the Louisiana commercial contractor and electrician exams just from studying and I wanted the licenses) but to this day I can’t read a novel. I have to read every page three times and still won’t always remember what I just read. I have two college degrees. First one I completed with around a 3.0 GPA. Someone recommended talking to my doctor about adderall while in college and I completed the second degree one B from a 4.0.
My six year old’s brain is very similar to mine. We can only really focus on what we WANT to focus on. Otherwise, spanking will only help each time there are issues. For example, he will do what I want after spanking only because he doesn’t want to get spanked again. Tomorrow we would be right back to the same situation every single time. That’s how he was from 2-4. Daily spanking and yelling just to get him to choose between fricken chicken nuggets or a hamburger happy meal from McDonald’s.
Last year, as a four year old (he turned five a month in) he started PreK-4 at a Catholic school here in BR after years of daycare. At the first parent-teacher conference, his teacher’s probably first sentence out of her mouth was he needed to be on ADHD medicine. I thought it was wild that a PreK teacher was telling us to medicate our kid. At this point, I’ve taken adderall for 20 years and was worried it would affect his personality. Our pediatrician was confident it wouldn’t and we started it.
He’s super smart. He’s getting good at sports. He might actually have been larger at three than the OP’s kid. Still 99th percentile for height and weight. His kindergarten teacher this year will literally call us to bring his medication, if we forgot. She can tell every single time. You literally can’t have a conversation about schoolwork with him. No amount of spanking would fix his situation for more than 15 minutes. It’s just how his brain is wired. We’re all different. He has zero social issues, because he WANTS to play with his friends and he’s popular. He has a lot of friends. I tell people all the time he can’t quit the medication until he’s 18. I don’t want him to be the shithead kid in the class. I want him to be awesome.
And for the posters that said medicating kids is the pussification of society, I have zero doubts that my medicated six year old would kick your six year old’s arse. Neither he nor I take any medication other then to help focus. The actual way to be a good parent is to do whatever necessary for your kid to have a great life. Don’t listen to most of these idiots.
This dude could be the best parent on Earth and that might not matter. All kids are different. I have a six and three year old and their brains couldn’t work more differently. Both very intelligent.
The terms autism and “on the spectrum” have become such general terms these days that they don’t really mean anything at this point. Having ADHD these days means you’re both autistic and on the spectrum.
I used to be somewhat similar to many of these posters. “Medicating your kid means you’re a lazy parent.” I ended up with personal experience that changed my opinion. I made a 34 for the English section of the ACT in high school, but I can’t read a book if my life depended on it. I can read a how to book (for example, I passed both the Louisiana commercial contractor and electrician exams just from studying and I wanted the licenses) but to this day I can’t read a novel. I have to read every page three times and still won’t always remember what I just read. I have two college degrees. First one I completed with around a 3.0 GPA. Someone recommended talking to my doctor about adderall while in college and I completed the second degree one B from a 4.0.
My six year old’s brain is very similar to mine. We can only really focus on what we WANT to focus on. Otherwise, spanking will only help each time there are issues. For example, he will do what I want after spanking only because he doesn’t want to get spanked again. Tomorrow we would be right back to the same situation every single time. That’s how he was from 2-4. Daily spanking and yelling just to get him to choose between fricken chicken nuggets or a hamburger happy meal from McDonald’s.
Last year, as a four year old (he turned five a month in) he started PreK-4 at a Catholic school here in BR after years of daycare. At the first parent-teacher conference, his teacher’s probably first sentence out of her mouth was he needed to be on ADHD medicine. I thought it was wild that a PreK teacher was telling us to medicate our kid. At this point, I’ve taken adderall for 20 years and was worried it would affect his personality. Our pediatrician was confident it wouldn’t and we started it.
He’s super smart. He’s getting good at sports. He might actually have been larger at three than the OP’s kid. Still 99th percentile for height and weight. His kindergarten teacher this year will literally call us to bring his medication, if we forgot. She can tell every single time. You literally can’t have a conversation about schoolwork with him. No amount of spanking would fix his situation for more than 15 minutes. It’s just how his brain is wired. We’re all different. He has zero social issues, because he WANTS to play with his friends and he’s popular. He has a lot of friends. I tell people all the time he can’t quit the medication until he’s 18. I don’t want him to be the shithead kid in the class. I want him to be awesome.
And for the posters that said medicating kids is the pussification of society, I have zero doubts that my medicated six year old would kick your six year old’s arse. Neither he nor I take any medication other then to help focus. The actual way to be a good parent is to do whatever necessary for your kid to have a great life. Don’t listen to most of these idiots.
This post was edited on 2/16/25 at 5:41 am
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:10 am to BrianFlanagan
And before someone says "That's why you spank! You make them want to care about what you want them to care about!" it's not like that at all. My six year old literally doesn't even realize he's not giving a shite about how to spell words or whatever. His mind is probably off somewhere debating who's better all-time, Messi or Ronaldo.
Real parenting problems is your kid deciding professional soccer is their first love. And teaching them how to be decent at wiping their own arse. It all has to be downhill from here, right?
Real parenting problems is your kid deciding professional soccer is their first love. And teaching them how to be decent at wiping their own arse. It all has to be downhill from here, right?
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:30 am to DiamondDog
Wooden spoon, switch off tree in backyard , good old fashioned belt worked on me.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:39 am to DiamondDog
My son who is now 25 was a handful. Everyone kept saying we needed to get him on adhd meds. I didn’t want to and was determined to just parent our way thru it. We did and did it by keeping him busy with a belt, sports, and hunting and fishing. String discipline and just keeping him busy and with something to focus on. We made it thru. By the time he was in middle school things were pretty good. Now school was always a struggle because he it was difficult for him to sit in class all day and stay focused. He never made great grades even though he was very bright. He is a very well adjusted adult now.
Now my daughter is going thru the same thing with my grandson except it is way worse than what my son’s behavior was. She is dealing with behaviors very similar to what you are describing. Here is what she has done to get it under control.
First look at what you are feeding him. Cut as many food with artificial dyes as you can. When she first told me she was doing this I didn’t think it would make a difference but it definitely made a noticeable difference. Keep him in activities. Again sports, hobbies etc. it gives him something constructive he can focus and fixate on. All these things helped but unlike with my son it wasn’t enough. She finally had to get him on some medication. She tried a couple different ones until she was able to find a balance of the lowest dosage that was still effective.
It is a struggle and many here will say all you need to do is whip his arse. And while I agree, a good arse whipping is sometimes called for it is not always to only thing needed.
Most important piece is to never stop showing them you love them. You are having to spend a lot of time disciplining so make sure you balance that out with also spending lots of time reaffirming how much you love him and are proud of him when he does things right. Remember, it’s not his fault necessarily how his brain is wired. Sometimes yes, a kid is just being bad, but sometimes they also just can’t help themselves.
Now my daughter is going thru the same thing with my grandson except it is way worse than what my son’s behavior was. She is dealing with behaviors very similar to what you are describing. Here is what she has done to get it under control.
First look at what you are feeding him. Cut as many food with artificial dyes as you can. When she first told me she was doing this I didn’t think it would make a difference but it definitely made a noticeable difference. Keep him in activities. Again sports, hobbies etc. it gives him something constructive he can focus and fixate on. All these things helped but unlike with my son it wasn’t enough. She finally had to get him on some medication. She tried a couple different ones until she was able to find a balance of the lowest dosage that was still effective.
It is a struggle and many here will say all you need to do is whip his arse. And while I agree, a good arse whipping is sometimes called for it is not always to only thing needed.
Most important piece is to never stop showing them you love them. You are having to spend a lot of time disciplining so make sure you balance that out with also spending lots of time reaffirming how much you love him and are proud of him when he does things right. Remember, it’s not his fault necessarily how his brain is wired. Sometimes yes, a kid is just being bad, but sometimes they also just can’t help themselves.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:56 am to Kingshakabooboo
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First look at what you are feeding him. Cut as many food with artificial dyes as you can. When she first told me she was doing this I didn’t think it would make a difference but it definitely made a noticeable difference.
Came here say this check his diet. I can noticeably tell when my 6 year old eats colored shite at my moms. My son would rather eat a box of strawberries and blueberries with yogurt but parents think he has to have a kids treat every time he goes over there. Bad does are in every single kids food today and they don’t look at packages like we do.
Check packages for dyes and eliminate those foods. We found certain foods would make him act out of the ordinary when he was that age and found red was the main culprit.
This post was edited on 2/16/25 at 7:20 am
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:58 am to DiamondDog
I'm not a therapist, so I know nothing about that aspect of training a child. My wife and I raised 4 kids without needing to seek professional help, but all 4 were a little scared of what would happen if certain lines were crossed. We didn't just continuously give warnings, we were the type to pull the car over if an issue persisted after the first warning. I even got our next door neighbors 2 boys on the right track. She was a single mom and couldn't handle her sons. 1 was starting to become a menace, so I was asked to help. It only took 2 trips across the yard to get him right.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:06 am to TT9
Has he been vaccinated, that may have caused this, not an expert but try detoxing from the heavy metals. Also pay attention to what you are feeding him.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:14 am to Kingshakabooboo
quote:So, so important!!
Most important piece is to never stop showing them you love them. You are having to spend a lot of time disciplining so make sure you balance that out with also spending lots of time reaffirming how much you love him and are proud of him when he does things right.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:17 am to DiamondDog
My wife is a special ed teacher and she primarily works with kindergarten and first graders who have autism. What you describe sounds a lot like the children she works with. I’d definitely have him evaluated. Autism means a lot of things hence the word spectrum. Lots of autistic people have happy productive lives but I’d think the earlier you get a diagnosis the better. Especially before he starts school so he can get the services he needs if indeed he needs them.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:30 am to DiamondDog
Have him evaluated yesterday. He probably has severe anxiety and needs a mild calming medicine. He is most likely Asperger’s.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:30 am to pelicanpride
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He laughed in his teacher’s face when she threatened to send him to the principal’s office
And what did you do when you heard that?
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:34 am to DiamondDog
FWIW, I have enough medical knowledge to know he's in the age range where autism spectrum clues begin to emerge. He should see a specialist, and therapy may help him if started early enough.
I was beaten by my parents growing up, and that isn't the answer. I resented my dad for years growing up because of it and almost stopped talking to him completely.
I was beaten by my parents growing up, and that isn't the answer. I resented my dad for years growing up because of it and almost stopped talking to him completely.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:43 am to DiamondDog
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I don't think he is autistic. He's very smart- not in that parent blind to reality way.
Many autistic people are TOO smart. It’s not a stupidity condition.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:50 am to BrianFlanagan
You are a contractor with 2 degrees?
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:53 am to DiamondDog
Can you post your email address?
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:53 am to DiamondDog
Don't put him on drugs if you can help it. Find any other way. He's 3, so a lot of this will fall away. Not all of it of course. As much as the OT will vagina bleed over this, go to a Catholic counselor, or at least a faith based one. They typically put meds at the bottom of the list of solutions. Best of luck and prayers sent to you and your wife. I know it's hard.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:59 am to DiamondDog
What is his communication like? Did he meet his milestones (crawling, walking, talking, etc.) on time?
A lot of what you are describing is my autistic son, who is now five. He was non-verbal and was diagnosed at three. Behavioral issues persist, however he is at his best at school (ABA clinical).
He can ruin life for my other kid though. It sucks. He doesn’t respond to normal discipline.
A lot of what you are describing is my autistic son, who is now five. He was non-verbal and was diagnosed at three. Behavioral issues persist, however he is at his best at school (ABA clinical).
He can ruin life for my other kid though. It sucks. He doesn’t respond to normal discipline.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:59 am to DiamondDog
Kids are tough. It sounds like you are dealing with a 3 year old boy. The good news is they often turn into very different 6 year old boys.
Emotional regulation is really hard at this age. Occupational therapists do some neat things where they will get your kid as riled up as possible and then work on calming down from that peak. Your pediatrician can refer you to a social worker, and a social worker (if they are decent) can be really helpful at navigating what services exist.
Emily Oster is a good parenting source. She is an economist who applies big data to parenting. The conclusion you’ll often find from her is a lot of other kids also do this, and your kid’s behavior is more normal than you might think.
Some things we did with our hardest that helped.
1. Really, really focus on the good behavior when he is calm. Call it out to him, however small.
2. Get him more exercise and an earlier bedtime. We shifted a bedtime up an hour and it made a big difference.
3. We simply stopped doing as many evening activities until they were past 5 years old and less feral. Some kids just need more time to learn their head from their arse. Your kid is 3. Protect him from being put in situations that will end poorly for everyone.
Emotional regulation is really hard at this age. Occupational therapists do some neat things where they will get your kid as riled up as possible and then work on calming down from that peak. Your pediatrician can refer you to a social worker, and a social worker (if they are decent) can be really helpful at navigating what services exist.
Emily Oster is a good parenting source. She is an economist who applies big data to parenting. The conclusion you’ll often find from her is a lot of other kids also do this, and your kid’s behavior is more normal than you might think.
Some things we did with our hardest that helped.
1. Really, really focus on the good behavior when he is calm. Call it out to him, however small.
2. Get him more exercise and an earlier bedtime. We shifted a bedtime up an hour and it made a big difference.
3. We simply stopped doing as many evening activities until they were past 5 years old and less feral. Some kids just need more time to learn their head from their arse. Your kid is 3. Protect him from being put in situations that will end poorly for everyone.
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