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Natural gas infrastructure not built for generator demand

Posted on 9/14/24 at 9:26 am
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
24825 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 9:26 am
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BATON ROUGE, La. (WAFB) - Keeping your power on can be a struggle after any storm. That’s why many people invest in a whole-home generator.

“With two young children, we wanted to make sure we were set up for success in future storms,” said M.E. Cormier.

Cormier said she bought her whole-home generator after Hurricane Ida in 2021. She is one of the thousands of people in Louisiana who have made the investment, but spending all that green has some people seeing red.

“Most of our infrastructure for gas is not built for the type of demand that comes from a home generator,” said Public Service Commissioner Davante Lewis.

Lewis added the state’s gas infrastructure needs upgrades in order to keep up with the growing popularity of generators. South Coast Gas in Raceland is experiencing this firsthand.

The utility said people in Thibodaux with whole-home generators are experiencing a lack of gas pressure. The utility explained, “(Its) system was not built for the demand due to the popularity of generators.”


“The infrastructure is built for a day that is very normal, especially in the summer,” Lewis explained. “If you, let’s say, live in a place where 30 people are now coming on with their whole house generators on, that pressure is now being pulled in so many different directions that it’s going to slow down the gas that’s getting to each generator making some of those generators not even come on line.”

Entergy Louisiana sent the following statement:

Entergy utilizes a range of modeling tools to predict how the system will respond to various conditions, including sudden increases in gas demand. Before major events, we work closely with our gas suppliers to ensure there are no interruptions at our gas city gates—the transfer points from transmission pipelines to our local system. It’s also important for customers to inform their gas provider when installing new appliances or generators, so system models remain accurate and up to date.

Cormier gave this advice to anyone thinking about getting a whole-home generator.

“We’ve all experienced and been through things and events that backups are always the best plan,” said Cormier.

Lewis said he plans on bringing up this topic at a future Public Service Commission meeting. He added that potential utility upgrades could mean an increase in your natural gas bill.


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Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
137967 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 9:29 am to
That’s exactly why I got an electric generator.

Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
4559 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 9:30 am to
My portable 15kW Whole Home Gen came in extra handy this storm w/ all of the NG pressure issues.
This post was edited on 9/14/24 at 9:31 am
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11525 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 9:33 am to
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M.E. Cormier


Do the news outlets only have one person to interview? I remember her name being all over the St. George opposition.
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
9114 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 9:37 am to
I knew that when natural gas generators became popular. Wet fuel is the only way to go. Preferably diesel.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
24825 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 9:37 am to
quote:

Do the news outlets only have one person to interview? I remember her name being all over the St. George opposition.


Local news/media is lazy garbage these days.
Posted by 385 Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
266 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 9:41 am to
Has anyone experienced this issue in BR or with Atmos?
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
45447 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 9:47 am to
Was this not an issue after Ida? Why now?
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
171857 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 9:51 am to
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My portable 15kW Whole Home Gen came in extra handy this storm w/ all of the NG pressure issues.


Dumb. You’d need like 100 gallons of gas to run that thing for 12+ hours a day for 4-6 days
Posted by jagrays
Member since Sep 2017
186 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 9:52 am to
Propane
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
11709 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 9:58 am to
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Was this not an issue after Ida? Why now?

I imagine the standby generator business has been pretty good since Ida.

The issue is pretty simple. The more people have them, the harder it is to maintain supply pressure without digging up and replacing the distribution lines with larger pipe.
Posted by BillyGibbons
St. Somewhere
Member since Mar 2020
723 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 9:58 am to
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Dumb. You’d need like 100 gallons of gas to run that thing for 12+ hours a day for 4-6 days


Doesn’t seem dumb if he has the means to store it. Easy to do with a couple marine gas totes. Keep it for a while then put it his cars…
This post was edited on 9/14/24 at 10:00 am
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
4559 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 10:00 am to
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Dumb. You’d need like 100 gallons of gas to run that thing for 12+ hours a day for 4-6 days


It uses about 5-6 gallons every 12 hrs. I have 25 gallons on standby before a storm and work at a refinery, so gas is easy to get during a storm.

You say dumb but between this and Ida I never had a problem. Everyone in my subdivision had their Generacs not running due to low NG pressure.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
171857 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 10:01 am to
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so gas is easy to get during a storm.
which is unusual but if you got gas then Rock on.
Posted by Shanegolang
Denham Springs, La
Member since Sep 2015
4324 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Was this not an issue after Ida? Why now?


Because now damn near every Joe and his uncle has a home generator. Only so much pressure to go around. seems having a propane/butane? tank would be the way to go.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
125452 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 10:08 am to
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Propane


Then you have to have a big arse ugly propane tank on your property

I live close to the main gas feeder line and have no issues. Most people have no issues.

This is an infrastructure issue in some places
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
125452 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 10:09 am to
quote:

have 25 gallons on standby before a storm and work at a refinery, so gas is easy to get during a storm.


We arent all plant baws, baw
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
5262 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 10:15 am to
I'm in Raceland and had no issues and have not heard of anyone else. Best investment I made. Felt like cheating.
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
4559 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 10:18 am to
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We arent all plant baws, baw


I never alluded to that. Just showing Chad why his dumb comment was, well, dumb.

Plus his numbers were off like he just pulled them out of thin air.
This post was edited on 9/14/24 at 10:20 am
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
Nawf Tejas
Member since Jun 2015
8470 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 10:20 am to
How much nat gas would, say, a 12k watt generator use in a 12 hour period?
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