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NASA admits it’s Space Launch System rocket is unaffordable.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:27 pm
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Just give Elon the keys and ask him to get us to the moon.
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Senior NASA officials say that the agency’s Space Launch System — the massive rocket designed to propel its ambitious Artemis program to establish a base on the moon — is “unaffordable,” according to a report Thursday from the US Government Accountability Office.
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The report found that the space agency “does not plan to measure production costs to monitor the affordability of its most powerful rocket.” In addition to the nearly $12 billion already spent developing the SLS rocket, NASA asked for more than $11 billion in its most recent budget request to fund the program for the next four years, according to the report.
Just give Elon the keys and ask him to get us to the moon.
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Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:29 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
I wish we could purchase stock in spaceX
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:30 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Has NASA ever been “affordable”? I don’t care how expensive actual research and development is for something like nasa, what I don’t want is absolute waste like DEI initiatives and Muslim outreach programs and all of the other non-scientific, non-space related, non-beneficial to advancing technology bullshite initiatives and waste that has plagued ALL government and private corporations.
Cut back on the waste, plan properly. And cut the fluff out and I don’t care if nasa doesn’t make a profit.
Cut back on the waste, plan properly. And cut the fluff out and I don’t care if nasa doesn’t make a profit.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:31 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
It’s those damn decepticons again
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:31 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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The GAO is an investigative branch of the US government charged with overseeing public spending.
Maybe someone should oversee GAO
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:31 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Someone once defined an elephant as a mouse built by the government.
But I bet NASA uses the right pronouns.
But I bet NASA uses the right pronouns.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:36 pm to Salmon
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The GAO is an investigative branch of the US government charged with overseeing public spending.
What are they saying about Ukraine?
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:36 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
SLS only exists to allow Lockheed and Boeing to continue invoicing for a couple billion a year. It also pays for the bloated NASA bureaucracy which essentially produces nothing at this point. It’s jokingly referred to as the Senate Launch System b/c it was foisted on the Agency by a bunch of senators representing states with NASA centers (pork barrel jobs) and Lockheed/Boeing lobbyists.
The ridiculous cost is the point of the program.
The ridiculous cost is the point of the program.
This post was edited on 9/12/23 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:37 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
much rather give NASA money than ukraine
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:38 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
This report just states what has been known for years. It’s essentially a jobs program and corporate welfare.
What’s really sad is that unmanned exploration is being severely cut to fund this.
What’s really sad is that unmanned exploration is being severely cut to fund this.
This post was edited on 9/12/23 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:41 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Just give Elon the keys and ask him to get us to the moon.
They won't do that. They're trying to investigate him for treason because they're ideological idiots.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:44 pm to Clint Torres
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SLS only exists to allow Lockheed and Boeing to continue invoicing for a couple billion a year. It also pays for the bloated NASA bureaucracy which essentially produces nothing at this point. It’s jokingly referred to as the Senate Launch System b/c it was foisted on the Agency by a bunch of senators representing states with NASA centers (pork barrel jobs) and Lockheed/Boeing lobbyists. The ridiculous cost is the point of the program.
Exactly this.
In fact, there is no reason for this rocket to even exist outside of political lobbying. The SpaceX starship can easily do the same thing for less money.
In fact, NASA can’t even land on the moon with the SLS rocket. All it does it take a capsule to a lunar orbit so the astronauts can then transfer to a SpaceX Starship to actually land on the moon.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:45 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
They will pour however much money is necessary in order to pass Elon up.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:46 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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what I don’t want is absolute waste like DEI initiatives and Muslim outreach programs and all of the other non-scientific, non-space related, non-beneficial to advancing technology bullshite initiatives and waste that has plagued ALL government and private corporations
You can only vote for the politicians, not the programs.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:49 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
How do you even define affordable for something like this?
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:53 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
NYC is spending $12 billion to house immigrants temporarily in shelters for the next 3 years. So, based on this the SLS seems down right cheap. And at least we'll get something in return from it.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:53 pm to LSUFanHouston
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How do you even define affordable for something like this?
Well the SLS has so far cost the taxpayer 11.8 Bn and NASA just asked for another 11.2 Bn to continue funding the program. Development of the SLS began in 2011. It has zero reusability.
Space Starship began development in 2019. It’s fully reusable, more powerful and can carry a larger payload than the SLS. SpaceX has spent 5.3 Bn on its development so far.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:55 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
If we weren't at war with Russia we could probably afford it.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:57 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
No sh!t it is. And if I'm not mistaken NASA didn't even want to keep developing it but Congress basically made them.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:57 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Just use the ones from 60 years ago.
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