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re: My thoughts on black lives and slavery as it relates to America
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:25 am to IAmNERD
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:25 am to IAmNERD
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Nope. And neither can 99.999% of the rest of America.
Ask people who are sentenced to hard labor. They represent more than .01% of the population. Criminals yes.. but it strikes me as a very slave-like setting. Not my cup of tea.. I prefer working in information technology as oposed to for profit jail systems. Hell even community service mandated by a court is involuntary servitude. And these are brought to us by our Justice department.
The Fourth Ammendment is just as important as the first, second and third but you have stripped us of our right to reasonable searches with great prejudice and it infuriates a lot of us.
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:32 am to rrarr
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Criminals yes..
Ok, well there's the whole argument. Comparing people who break the law to people forced into slavery through no fault of their own is asinine.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:35 am to Mike da Tigah
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Why is it so hard for people to let go of shite they never experienced or has infected this country in over a 150 years now?
Spoken like a white man that never had to break that generational cycle Of poverty, lack of education, lack of land, segregation & racism, among other challenges.
Not you are anyone in your family tree.
jUsT gET oVeR iT!!!!!11
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:36 am to Lester Earl
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Spoken like a white man that never had to break that generational cycle Of racism, among other challenges.
oh lester. you literally just type our arguments for us.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:37 am to Lester Earl
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Spoken like a white man that never had to break that generational cycle Of poverty, lack of education, lack of land, segregation & racism, among other challenges. Not you are anyone in your family tree.
Spoken like someone who loves playing the victim.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:41 am to Snipe
I'm not reading that much of an opinion, but I stand in support of you expressing it.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:43 am to Lester Earl
Lack of education is a huge issue during this, especially when it comes to how laws and the justice system work in this country.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:45 am to Lester Earl
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Spoken like a white man that never had to break that generational cycle Of poverty, lack of education, lack of land, segregation & racism, among other challenges.
Not you are anyone in your family tree.
jUsT gET oVeR iT!!!!!11
WOW, and that’s not stereotypically racist at all.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:46 am to Snipe
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Why is it so hard for some people to say black lives matter and do it without feeling like their life or race is being marginalized? I've been guilty of it at times. Why is it so hard for some people to say slavery was a disgusting inhuman industry linked to this countries history without bringing up how slavery was all over the world and African tribes sold slaves or how their race and ancestors were beaten and mistreated also? I've been guilty of it at times. I can see how some people can feel like that is marginalizing a topic of great importance to them, even if it is not of great concern to some of us. Seem like this is where a lot of anger comes from.
Not one person is this country has ever been a slave or a slave master. Stop carrying dead peoples' baggage, it's fricking dumb. And BLM is built on perpetuating white supremacy. All of the crying black victims and the crying white guilt pussies need to just get over it.
This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 11:47 am
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:50 am to Saint Alfonzo
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Not one person is this country has ever been a slave or a slave master. Stop carrying dead peoples' baggage, it's fricking dumb. And BLM is built on perpetuating white supremacy. All of the crying black victims and the crying white guilt pussies need to just get over it.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:52 am to drdoct
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they will play the white part and we'll play the black part. Sorry but I'm not going to accept that.
why wouldn't you want to switch? everything is equal
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:52 am to Mike da Tigah
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Why is it so hard for people to let go of shite they never experienced
Because it's history.
I didn't experience WW2 but I have a tremendous amount of pride and admiration for the hero's that fought against evil and won. It literally effects how I live my life today.
Should we just move on from that too?
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:53 am to Harry Morgan
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Spoken like someone who loves playing the victim.
Sadly, your thoughts & actions are not victimless.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:55 am to Lester Earl
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Sadly, your thoughts & actions are not victimless.
Sadly, you are content not to move forward and blame others.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:57 am to Snipe
slavery is a global economic institution that has been around for as long as we've recorded history.
humans have had a brutal existence with each other.
whitey was just doing what everyone else was doing.
whitey also started abolition, something that still hasn't been done in practice in africa, asia and the middle east. the slave trade still goes on.
this will probably end in tears like it always does.
if you want to blame whitey, then blame the welfare state. it's just another control mechanism for needy, insecure and/or lazy people.
as long as a collectivist mindset is there, someone will be taking advantage of it in some fashion.
humans have had a brutal existence with each other.
whitey was just doing what everyone else was doing.
whitey also started abolition, something that still hasn't been done in practice in africa, asia and the middle east. the slave trade still goes on.
this will probably end in tears like it always does.
if you want to blame whitey, then blame the welfare state. it's just another control mechanism for needy, insecure and/or lazy people.
as long as a collectivist mindset is there, someone will be taking advantage of it in some fashion.
This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:59 am to Joshjrn
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I'm not blaming Boomers. I'm simply pointing to signposts on the timeline to illustrate that brutal, inhuman fricking racism wasn't as long ago as people like to pretend it was.
And like it or not there are monuments to that racism celebrated all over the south. It's just a fact. Plantations for one. Now I don't advocate burning them down but as someone mentioned, Auschwitz is maintained not as a monument but as a testament.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 12:01 pm to Snipe
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Because it's history.
Well frick, so are the Punic wars, and yet the Carthaginians somehow managed to get past their enslavement
I mean, should I answer for that too? I’m not Roman, but we probably do kind of look alike and all, and you know how we like to ascribe guilt to people who look alike.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 12:02 pm to Snipe
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Why is it so hard for some people to say black lives matter and do it without feeling like their life or race is being marginalized? I've been guilty of it at times. Why is it so hard for some people to say slavery was a disgusting inhuman industry linked to this countries history without bringing up how slavery was all over the world and African tribes sold slaves or how their race and ancestors were beaten and mistreated also? I've been guilty of it at times.
It’s not hard. The problem is where these lunatics take it next....
Reparations
Systemic racism
Ending “white” capitalism
Defund the police
Etc.
That’s why I will never say BLM. I actually do care about everyone, life is precious. But I’m not standing up for that ridiculous Marxist movement.
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I used to be one of the one that thought get over it, it happened 150 or more years ago. But think about that, can you even comprehend what it meant to be a slave?
No one alive today can.
So can you tell us how many years have to pass before it’s a non issue? Every society in the world had slavery if you look back far enough. America is actually one of the least egregious. So what amount of time needs to pass? Give us a definitive number of years.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 12:03 pm to Snipe
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I didn't experience WW2 but I have a tremendous amount of pride and admiration for the hero's that fought against evil and won. It literally effects how I live my life today.
Should we just move on from that too?
Your pride doesn't affect how others live. It doesn't claim a systemic form of discrimination that doesn't really exist. It affects only you.
If you can't see the difference then you're just another part of the problem.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 12:10 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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Not one person is this country has ever been a slave or a slave master.
You sure about that? You should read up on the child and adult slave trade happening in this country right now.
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top carrying dead peoples' baggage, it's fricking dumb.
No whats fricking dumb is being so obtuse as to think since it doesn't affect me it's not a real issue. But what you don't understand is that it does affect you. Bigly. Turn on the news. Tucker Carlson stated it perfectly when he said BLM is now the most powerful political party in this country. They are making things happen without all the legal red tape. Cities are defending and fundamentally changing their police departments because BLM said do it. Surely you can see this is affecting you right.
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