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“My Daughter Died at 32. My Devices Won’t Let Me Rest.”

Posted on 4/30/26 at 6:22 pm
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25717 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 6:22 pm
Quick summary for those that don’t want to read - the digital haunting of parents who have lost a child in this digital age is something we don’t think about. This is the story of two parents navigating those tragically sad waters.

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MY CAR’S BLUETOOTH asks if I’d like to connect to “Miranda’s iPhone.”

Facebook pings me with “memories”: photo carousels of my adult daughter and me on a beach or posing for goofy selfies.

Miranda’s name appears on my list of “favorite” numbers on my phone. A shared streaming account offers recommendations that cater to Miranda’s high-low tastes: a historical drama, and the new season of “Real Housewives.”

Then there’s my Amazon account, which lists Miranda’s shipping address in Brooklyn.

But Miranda is not in Brooklyn. She died in February, 2024, at the age of 32. Her body was found in her bedroom. She’d collapsed suddenly sometime during the previous night, we’d later learn from complications from a rare brain tumor removed five years earlier. After the surgery, her neurosurgeon had assured us she would live a long and healthy life.

Every time her ghost pops up on a device, my heart is ripped anew.


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Eventually I would be able to steel myself to enter a grocery store again, and other places where we had spent time together. But these were decisions I could make on my own when I felt ready.

The digital haunting I had no control over.

There you are, going about your day, maybe even thinking to yourself, “Hey, I’m OK right now!” Then: We thought you’d like to remember what you were doing on this day in 2018.

No. No. I really don’t! But I can’t look away.




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THE IRONY OF the unwanted notifications is that big tech adamantly blocks access to the data we do want.

When my husband David and I received Miranda’s computer and iPhone, we had no idea what her passwords were. Neither did her siblings. Nor did her best friends. We tried dozens of combinations of Ringo, her dog’s name (the prompt clue was “roommate and best friend”). Nothing worked. We remained locked out.

Miranda’s will named David as executor. David reached out to Apple. He reached out to Google. He reached out to AT&T, her phone carrier. Each responded as if we were hackers trying to steal her credit card.

No, Apple would not help us log in to her MacBook. No, Google would not allow us access to her Gmail. No, AT&T would not help us unlock her phone or release her texts. You’ll need a court order, they kept telling us.


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In the end, David had to go to Brooklyn Surrogate Court and seek a series of orders. Each company dictated its own wording about what the order must say. Apple gave us her photos but nothing else. Google gave us metadata, recipients, dates and subject lines of her emails, but no content. AT&T outright refused to unlock her phone.

Our lawyer thought another round of orders might yield better results. But the delay, the expense and, let’s face it, the heartache, defeated us. We would have to rest content with the photos. When we at last opened those, maybe 80% were of Ringo.

THUS I’M LEFT with the tomb of a hard drive, holding the little we could recover. Miranda’s iPhone and MacBook sit on a bookshelf, mute and unyielding, like storage lockers with lost keys. I’ll never know what’s in them.

Meanwhile, the reminders I never asked for keep coming. The things I would give anything to see are denied to me.


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Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139390 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 6:25 pm to
I'm sure she can turn off or remove all of those things if she wants to.


But I do understand how it's different than before social media
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23773 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 6:25 pm to
I get "happy presentations" of my dogs that died a few years ago on my new phone too, and I have not turned it off yet. I remember them fondly of course, but sometimes it does bring it all the emotion back. Nothing like a child of course, but.
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 6:26 pm
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37404 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 6:30 pm to
having your passwords accessible to someone via a will is so important these days

I am curious how future generations will handle digital photo albums…each generation before us (parents, grandparents, great grandparents) had more photos than the one before and they were physical and easily passed down.

now we we have thousands and thousands of photos and videos in a cloud or on phones and old phones and I don’t know how our kids will keep them or sort them or care
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 6:31 pm
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
Member since Dec 2007
24000 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 6:31 pm to
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I’M LEFT with the tomb of a hard drive, holding the little we could recover. Miranda’s iPhone and MacBook sit on a bookshelf, mute and unyielding, like storage lockers with lost keys. I’ll never know what’s in them.

Meanwhile, the reminders I never asked for keep coming. The things I would give anything to see are denied to me.


They haven't tried hard enough. Data recovery is fairly simple using a different operating system such as LINUX.

Victim mentality.
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2559 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 6:31 pm to
All I are those teeth.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
6274 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 6:37 pm to
You also have to have a trusted friend to come in and erase the porn before family gets access to devices
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13228 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 6:39 pm to
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The digital haunting I had no control over.

That's simply not true.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59237 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 6:45 pm to
We get a bunch printed through the cvs app once or twice a year so there’s some sort of physical photos saved
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131554 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 6:46 pm to
This is the definition of a first world problem
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 6:47 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
70685 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 6:47 pm to
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. Miranda’s iPhone and MacBook sit on a bookshelf, mute and unyielding, like storage lockers with lost keys. I’ll never know what’s in them.


Are you sure you really want to?
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
74838 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 6:47 pm to
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All I are those teeth.
Wish said I that?
Posted by csorre1
Member since Apr 2010
7267 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 6:48 pm to
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I'm sure she can turn off or remove all of those things if she wants to.


But I do understand how it's different than before social media


My sister, who died in 2006, is still in my phone, as is my dad, who died in 2020. Deleting them doesn't feel right to do. I get it. I don't feel haunted by technology, but I get not intentionally removing someone's memory who you lost.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16072 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:00 pm to
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The digital haunting I had no control over.

That's simply not true.

You can tell iPhoto to not show you memories of certain people. It's not hard.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
74838 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:13 pm to
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It's not hard.
TWSS
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25717 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:13 pm to
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You can tell iPhoto to not show you memories of certain people. It's not hard.


There's social media memories, calendars, having your child listed in your favorites to contact, old text messages to go back and read. There's a million places that I can think of that one of my children would still be floating around if they passed, and I know it would be hard to get rid of old text messages and other things that they are in.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74242 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:33 pm to
You can turn must of that off. Facebook memories sucks when it brings up pictures of you and your exes though.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25717 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:34 pm to
I know you can, but will you want to with your kids? It's a hard thing to consider, and I pray I never have to.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
5535 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:46 pm to
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I'm sure she can turn off or remove all of those things if she wants to.



I imagine there is a tremendous amount of guilt if they do. Like they are trying to erase the memory of their daughter.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
24560 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:48 pm to
She looks like a liberal

frick ‘em
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