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Muhammed Ali... American Hero?
Posted on 6/11/16 at 8:36 am
Posted on 6/11/16 at 8:36 am
I understand he had an impact on many people's lives, but I find it very very hard to listen to people say that Ali was an American hero when he dodged the draft when HIS country needed him the most. The same country that allowed him the freedom to box, talk his talk, make a wealthy living for his family, and change his frickin name.
Just heard sportscenter anchors call him an American Hero and my dad about lost his shite (pretty much every uncle, grandpa and 2 of my current cousins are in the armed forces).
Sports Hero that positively affected many people lives, yes.... Calling him an American Hero, something that we call our men/women fighting and giving up their lives every single day to make sure we have the freedom to live in the country, No, I will never put him in the same ballpark with these people
Just heard sportscenter anchors call him an American Hero and my dad about lost his shite (pretty much every uncle, grandpa and 2 of my current cousins are in the armed forces).
Sports Hero that positively affected many people lives, yes.... Calling him an American Hero, something that we call our men/women fighting and giving up their lives every single day to make sure we have the freedom to live in the country, No, I will never put him in the same ballpark with these people
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Posted on 6/11/16 at 8:38 am to BayouBengals1209
American hero... NO!!! And anyone that says he is in unpatriotic
Posted on 6/11/16 at 8:39 am to BayouBengals1209
Refreshing thoughts on this new topic.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 8:40 am to urinetrouble
Is Floyd Mayweather an American hero?
Posted on 6/11/16 at 8:42 am to urinetrouble
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Refreshing thoughts on this new topic.
Didn't see a thread on this actual topic of american hero, sorry if I missed it... just really aggravated my family when espn is calling him an American Hero... and it should frick every american off too
Posted on 6/11/16 at 8:42 am to BayouBengals1209
You people need to just relax a bit... Who gives a frick what some dude on tv called Ali. Folks tend to speak mighty highly of a fella after he dies, this is not uncommon..... Take a chill pill and before you know it nobody will be speaking of Ali.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 8:42 am to BayouBengals1209
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American Hero?
Why? Because he was big, and strong, and fast? Heroes are people who are dealt a tough hand, and then use their brain, and their guts to overcome obstacles, doing things for others without regards to themselves.
Sports stars are -- for the most part -- physical freaks who were born with incredible athletic ability. They then accumulate as much money and fame for themselves as possible, while doing the bare minimum for those less fortunate.
That's not being a hero.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 8:44 am to BayouBengals1209
Meh, thousands of middle class people were doing anything and everything to dodge the draft for the Vietnam war. That was a shitshow, and not comparable for responding to your county's call for WW2.
Going to community college, finding some medical exemption, joining the reserves and national guard....Everyone was trying to avoid serving in that war. Only the poor ended up going because they didn't have the resources to find ways out.
Going to community college, finding some medical exemption, joining the reserves and national guard....Everyone was trying to avoid serving in that war. Only the poor ended up going because they didn't have the resources to find ways out.
This post was edited on 6/11/16 at 8:47 am
Posted on 6/11/16 at 8:45 am to BayouBengals1209
Was an American hero when he won the gold medal in the Olympics but lost that status with his refusal to serve his country.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 8:46 am to BayouBengals1209
He stood up for what he believed and took the hit
How much money did he lose during those 3 years
How much money did he lose during those 3 years
Posted on 6/11/16 at 8:48 am to BayouBengals1209
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dodged the draft when HIS country needed him the most.
How exactly did they need him most in Vietnam? Was he going to go over there Rambo style and win the "war" himself? That "war" was bullshite politics that were thrust on the American people that the elites didn't have to have their children fight and die over. Do I view him as an American hero, no. Do I understand why he didn't go, yes.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 8:50 am to No Colors
quote:I mean, there's a museum called the Ali Center that has an entire section dedicated to his charitable aide, what are you talking about?
Why? Because he was big, and strong, and fast? Heroes are people who are dealt a tough hand, and then use their brain, and their guts to overcome obstacles, doing things for others without regards to themselves.
Sports stars are -- for the most part -- physical freaks who were born with incredible athletic ability. They then accumulate as much money and fame for themselves as possible, while doing the bare minimum for those less fortunate
This post was edited on 6/11/16 at 8:51 am
Posted on 6/11/16 at 8:50 am to BayouBengals1209
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I find it very very hard to listen to people say that Ali was an American hero when he dodged the draft when HIS country needed him the most.
I'm pretty sure a very high court said what he did was not illegal...unlike that president y'all elected twice back in the 90's
Posted on 6/11/16 at 8:54 am to YeahYeah
American icon not an American hero
Posted on 6/11/16 at 8:54 am to BayouBengals1209
He stood up against a useless war and a senseless waste of life and accepted the punishment for it.
He missed out on some of the best years of his boxing career and millions of dollars because he stood up for what he believed in.
He took a stand for other African Americans that were being treated like shite at home and then sent to the front lines in Vietnam. He could have enlisted and he'd have been given a completely safe job, maybe touring around speaking to the troops.
But that would have been chicken shite considering they were dying.
He missed out on some of the best years of his boxing career and millions of dollars because he stood up for what he believed in.
He took a stand for other African Americans that were being treated like shite at home and then sent to the front lines in Vietnam. He could have enlisted and he'd have been given a completely safe job, maybe touring around speaking to the troops.
But that would have been chicken shite considering they were dying.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 8:56 am to BayouBengals1209
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dodged the draft when HIS country needed him the most
ehhhh, it was the frikin Vietnam War. Not WWII. If anything he should be revered for opposing such a useless war. People that criticize "draft dodgers" of the Vietnam War are cucks. how about growing some balls and not doing anything the government asks.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 8:57 am to LSUSUPERSTAR
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Do I view him as an American hero, no. Do I understand why he didn't go, yes
Yep, I don't see him as an American Hero because he was just a damned boxer, but not because of the Vietnam War shite.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 8:57 am to BayouBengals1209
Hero? No. Great boxer, yes. Polarizing, yes. Notable philanthropist.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 8:57 am to saderade
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American icon not an American hero
To the majority of African Americans he is most certainly a hero.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 8:59 am to ULSU
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Meh, thousands of middle class people were doing anything and everything to dodge the draft for the Vietnam war. That was a shitshow, and not comparable for responding to your county's call for WW2.
Only the bootlicking brainwashed keyboard warriors of the OT are still defending the Vietnam War. Many of these are the same folks who voted for W twice.
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