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re: Morganza Spillway may or may not open for a 3rd time -- lack of clear info from ACoE
Posted on 5/22/19 at 10:46 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 5/22/19 at 10:46 pm to lsupride87
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If it were to rise 5 feet, which just seems impossible to be looking at the map and historical trends in the stephensville area, then they are completely fricked.
This was the 2011 guidance.
Like I said, 0-5 feet is a big arse range.
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 10:49 pm to slackster
Yeah but in 11 the water was up a couple feet in Houma. Think of all the outlets it could take from spillway to Houma, and it still was up a couple feet. Now think about Stephensville being a couple miles (north admittedly) of where the spillway dumps into the IC
Posted on 5/22/19 at 10:51 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
So what’s your guess thib? You thinking stephensville area truly sees multiple feet of water rise?
All our guesses carry the same weight. Not much
All our guesses carry the same weight. Not much
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 5/22/19 at 10:53 pm to lsupride87
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So what’s your guess thib? You thinking stephensville area truly sees multipemfeetmof water rise?
I don’t think they’ll get 5 feet, but I wouldn’t count on 0
Like I said, better hope we get a 2 week north wind
Posted on 5/22/19 at 10:53 pm to Capt ST
Went to Jena yesterday. Never seen that much water along LA28, guessing Catahoula Larto and Saline are high af too.
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 5/22/19 at 10:56 pm to Emteein
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I'm no expert but I've driven around BR enough to figure basically everything south of highland road would be flooded as god originally intended. You see highland road is called that because it is on highland, a natural bluff. The water would then probably flow to old bayou manchac, spanish lake area, then on to amite river/lake maurepa area,and then onto lake Pontchartrain.
Is it true that the river’s natural/original path was alongside highland road. You know how there’s a huge drop off highland? Someone told me that that drop off is where the river used to be.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 10:56 pm to berrycajun
quote:
Is it true that the river’s natural/original path was alongside highland road. You know how there’s a huge drop off highland? Someone told me that that drop off is where the river used to be.
At some point, sure
It’s been all over the state
Posted on 5/22/19 at 10:57 pm to berrycajun
everthing between highland and the river got flooded every spring (or thereabout)
Posted on 5/22/19 at 10:57 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Those barges at bayou chene help out tremendously. This came from my engineer friend who’s from Pierre part, so take it for what it’s worth
“..it’s bad and it’s not going down anytime soon. In 2011 the highest bayou Boeuf at Amelia ever got was 3.5’ on 5/14/11......today’s reading is 4.93’. We didn’t get any rainfall in 2011, and when the Atchafalaya river crested on May 28, 2011 the barge was in place. Bayou Boeuf has been over 3’ plus since January 1st and over 4’ since March 28th........”
“..it’s bad and it’s not going down anytime soon. In 2011 the highest bayou Boeuf at Amelia ever got was 3.5’ on 5/14/11......today’s reading is 4.93’. We didn’t get any rainfall in 2011, and when the Atchafalaya river crested on May 28, 2011 the barge was in place. Bayou Boeuf has been over 3’ plus since January 1st and over 4’ since March 28th........”
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:01 pm to Capt ST
Damn. I need to call some clients out there and see how they’re doing
PP store probably making a killing on supplies right now
PP store probably making a killing on supplies right now
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:03 pm to Capt ST
That’s not very encouraging for those in the crosshairs
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:06 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
This may start to impact Performance contractors.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:08 pm to berrycajun
Barges are a doubled edge sword, keeps water from coming up, also keeps it from draining. We were dry as hell in 2011, it’s been raining it’s arse off this year.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:11 pm to Capt ST
Seems like there should be somewhere in Arkansas or MS that we could flood so “we” don’t have to deal with this shite every couple years
I’m high and dry in Thib tho
I’m high and dry in Thib tho
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:12 pm to Capt ST
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Those barges at bayou chene help out tremendously. This came from my engineer friend who’s from Pierre part, so take it for what it’s worth
“..it’s bad and it’s not going down anytime soon. In 2011 the highest bayou Boeuf at Amelia ever got was 3.5’ on 5/14/11......today’s reading is 4.93’. We didn’t get any rainfall in 2011, and when the Atchafalaya river crested on May 28, 2011 the barge was in place. Bayou Boeuf has been over 3’ plus since January 1st and over 4’ since March 28th........”
Yeah that's all factual.
Bayou Boeuf at Amelia is currently at it's all-time record. It could be an even bigger shite show if the Atchafalaya River rises much more.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:14 pm to slackster
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Bayou Boeuf at Amelia is currently at it's all-time record. It could be an even bigger shite show if the Atchafalaya River rises much more.
If I had one of those businesses in MC that are along the floodwall that always leaks through the gates, I would be losing my shite right about now
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:17 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Seems like there should be somewhere in Arkansas or MS that we could flood
You realize the spillways offer another route to the gulf. Flooding farther North doesn't really help much if the water just makes it back to a tributary.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:19 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Yeah but in 11 the water was up a couple feet in Houma. Think of all the outlets it could take from spillway to Houma, and it still was up a couple feet. Now think about Stephensville being a couple miles (north admittedly) of where the spillway dumps into the IC
Water in the intracoastal was barely a blip in 2011 and 2016. It was maybe a 6 inches to a foot.
Back in 2011 after the first barge was sunk, they left the outer retaining walls to make it easier to sink another so that it would take less time to install another one.
So, 2016 comes along and they make call to sink another barge. This is no ordinary barge, it is seagoing oil barge that they fill with water to sink and they drive sheet piles along one side of the barge to stop the water.
In 2016, I got to visit the barge. It was impressive and it only took about a week to a week and a half to assemble and a few million dollars.
Here is where the rub comes in. Back in 2016, because of some reason the feds did not reimburse the levee districts for some of the work. So, I guess the districts are taking the position, we are only going put this thing if we really need it and construction of permanent structure will start soon.
By the way, here is a video of the barge back in 2016 from the St. Mary Levee District.
YouTube
For some of ya’ll, it is not just a matter of dropping the barge in the video above. The National Guard also has to build a levee on Avoca Island and contain some canals south of the structure with sand bags with the help of the Levee Districts.
Terrebonne Parish last week started to pump out water from the Cacahoula Basin around Gibson because the water cannot flow out fast enough due to high water coming from the Atchafalaya.
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:22 pm to fightin tigers
quote:
You realize the spillways offer another route to the gulf. Flooding farther North doesn't really help much if the water just makes it back to a tributary.
You do realize that with controlled flooding you can slow the pace and take strain off of the levees
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:24 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:
If I had one of those businesses in MC that are along the floodwall that always leaks through the gates, I would be losing my shite right about now
They had it much worse in 2011, which is what's so counterintuitive about the Stephensville flooding.
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