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re: Morganza Spillway may or may not open for a 3rd time -- lack of clear info from ACoE

Posted on 2/24/19 at 4:58 pm to
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175388 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 4:58 pm to
How’s the forebay looking?
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29125 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 5:03 pm to
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It could be we have 10 or 12 years of wet weather every 40 or 50 years. It could be the river bottom is rising.


I think another cause of the more frequent high waters is the massive amounts of land within the watershed that has been developed in the past few decades. Even a modest increase of one or two percent to the impervious coverage can have large impacts downstream.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 5:28 pm to
It's always nice to hear from someone who actually knows what they're talking about, and I know you do. Thanks for bringing up a valid point that's often overlooked by amateurs like myself.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 5:41 pm to
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How's the forebay looking?


I haven't seen it, but I'm sure it's flooded if they're going to open the Bonnet Carre. The Carrollton gage is around 15', I think, so I'd venture to guess the forebay is completely inundated.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 5:53 pm to
quote:

I think another cause of the more frequent high waters is the massive amounts of land within the watershed that has been developed in the past few decades. Even a modest increase of one or two percent to the impervious coverage can have large impacts downstream.


Absolutely true as well.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 6:23 pm to
It’s not about cost I’d imagine. Try to get the thousands of Boudreaux and Clotille willingly out of their family property because the federal government is going to deliberately flood their homes. It would be impossible. We all know this would literally be NIMBY x1,000,000
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20494 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 6:59 pm to
I mean we will lose the wetlands battle if we leave the levees in place and use diversion projects. What will take those projects decades to build will be wiped out by one storm.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 7:25 pm to
Okay, I get what you're saying. We'll never "win" with just the diversion projects currently running and as the way they're run (based on salinity levels).

Freshwater diversions were fine to start, but it seems to me that we need diversions that are sediment laden. Sport and commercial fishermen won't like it, and oystermen will hate it, but the marsh is going to be lost without some river sediment building and the fresh water that comes along with it.
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
1151 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 7:39 pm to
Up about a foot or so from last week. Continuing to edge upward
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27895 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 7:40 pm to
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My hood will be safe is all I know
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175388 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 7:42 pm to
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I haven't seen it, but I'm sure it's flooded if they're going to open the Bonnet Carre. The Carrollton gage is around 15', I think, so I'd venture to guess the forebay is completely inundated.

The real forebay is in Morganza, baw
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 7:47 pm to
The "real" forebay may be in Morganza, but there is an area between the river and the Bonnet Carre gate structure that is also on own as the forebay.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
6325 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 10:26 pm to
Off topic. Apologies.
quote:

Anaximander
That's a tough drum grove because the way Bonham recorded it with his kit in the tile lobby of the recording studio using multiple mikes. Zepparella's drummer does a pretty good job on it. That lagging echo backbeat on the original is tough to reproduce live without some technology assisting.

On topic.
Do we know if people are walking the levees looking for boils and to see if they are percolating clean water or dirty?

If this were happening it might give some evidence of possible anxiety on the levee breaking front.
Posted by Langland
Trumplandia
Member since Apr 2014
15382 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 10:29 pm to
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It will be an improvement to BR

Hopefully it will flush all the shite back down to NO.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31722 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 10:38 pm to
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The "real" forebay


What's a 'forebay?'

I'd love to take a visit to the ORCS. I've seen pictures but I don't really understand much about water dynamics and the amount of force it's holding back. I mean, I get the basic concepts but I know there is a hell of a lot more to it than I understand.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82025 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 10:45 pm to
What is the top of the Baton Rouge levee?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175388 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 10:48 pm to
47.9 feet is the low point.

When the river got to 45.01 in 2011 it was insane how close to the top it appeared.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82025 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 10:53 pm to
Yea I was at LSU for that. I remember walking up to the top even though they weren't allowing people up there. Was scary AF to look at the water levels then look at all the buildings on the dry side that were ~15-20ft lower
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 10:59 pm to
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Maybe a mass exodus of NOLA refugees back from BR to NOLA?


One could only dream of sending them back.
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18836 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 11:56 pm to
If the levee fails and F’s up LSU basketball’s season, I’m gonna be pissed
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