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Mom faces felony charges after sending daughter to record bullying
Posted on 11/28/17 at 7:59 am
Posted on 11/28/17 at 7:59 am
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BTW Virginia is a one party state. Sounds like someone in the school district was afraid to look bad, and decided to go full retard.
BTW Virginia is a one party state. Sounds like someone in the school district was afraid to look bad, and decided to go full retard.
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A Virginia mother is facing jail time after she put a voice recorder in her daughter's backpack in an attempt to catch the child's bullies in the act, CNN reported.
Sarah Sims' daugher is in fourth grade at Ocean View Elementary School in Norfolk, Virginia. When she told Sims she was being bullied in school, Sims went to the administrators, but said she got no response, according to CNN.
That is when Sims, 47, sent her daughter to school with a voice recorder in her backpack in hopes to catch the bullies in the act. The voice recorder sat in her daughter's desk all day before being confiscated by school officials.
Now, Sims has been charged with intercepting wire, electronic or oral communications, a felony, and contributing to the delinquency of a minor, a misdemeanor. Sims, a student herself at Norfolk State University, faces up to five years in prison if convicted of the felony charge, CNN reported.
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Virginia is a one-party consent state. It is legal for someone to record others when the person recording is involved in the conversation or when one of the parties in the conversation has given prior consent.
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 8:07 am
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Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:02 am to NYNolaguy1
I guess the question is whether she told her daughter. Then one side of conversation would have given consent?
Unless it recorded other conversations not involving her daughter which I guess is quite possible.
Unless it recorded other conversations not involving her daughter which I guess is quite possible.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:03 am to NYNolaguy1
Please change your thread title, she did not actually record any bullying.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:08 am to Methuselah
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I guess the question is whether she told her daughter. Then one side of conversation would have given consent?
Since mother put it in daughters backpack and the recorder sat in daughters desk all day, daughter must have known. My question is, how did anyone discover a recorder just sitting in a desk?
In either case, I don't have a problem with what the mother did.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:18 am to cave canem
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Please change your thread title, she did not actually record any bullying.
WHy? the title is accurate. She sent her to record bullying did she not?
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:24 am to TigerGman
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WHy? the title is accurate. She sent her to record bullying did she not?
Perhaps it was changed prior to you reading it you silly goose.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:26 am to NYNolaguy1
That's crazy. Ive seen teachers and administrators stand right next to bullies screwing with other kids during pickup and not even turn their heads.
I understand where pissed off parents come from.
I understand where pissed off parents come from.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:27 am to cave canem
Her plan was to record bullying, title is accurate
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:28 am to NYNolaguy1
Possible 5 years for that but plenty of congressional leaders can get away with a little unwanted slap and pickle...
OK then.
OK then.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:31 am to dawgfan24348
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Her plan was to record bullying, title is accurate
And another dipshit who did not see the original title yet felt the need to comment, some of yall are pretty special.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:00 am to cave canem
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Perhaps...
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:09 am to cave canem
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Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:47 am to i am dan
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That's crazy. Ive seen teachers and administrators stand right next to bullies screwing with other kids during pickup and not even turn their heads.
Reminded me of a favorite passage of mine from Steven King's "IT."
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'An old lady saw them trying to beat me up,' Beverly was saying. 'Henry went after her. He kicked her taillight out.'
This alarmed Ben more than anything else. He understood instinctively, as most kids did, that they lived below the sight-lines, and hence the thought-lines, of most adults. When a grownup was ditty-bopping down the street, thinking his grownup thoughts about work and appointments and buying cars and whatever else grownups thought about, he never noticed kids playing hopscotch or guns or kick-the-can or ring-a-levio or hide-and-go-seek. Bullies like Henry could get away with hurting other kids quite a lot if they were careful to stay below that sightline. At the very most, a passing adult was apt to say something like, "Why don't you quit that?' and then just continue ditty-bopping along without waiting to see if the bully stopped or not. So the bully would wait until the grownup had turned the corner . . . and then go back to business as usual. It was like adults thought that real life only started when a person was five feet tall.
If Henry had gone after some old lady, he had gone above that sight-line. And that more than anything else suggested to Ben that he really was crazy.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:33 am to NYNolaguy1
I knew they had this law, I was wondering why it wasn't mentioned when one of the sluts accusing Joe Barton of lewd behavior secretly recorded a phone conversation with him and sold it to the media a week or so ago
ETA: conversation was in VA
ETA: conversation was in VA
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 11:56 am
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:37 am to NYNolaguy1
While not a popular opinion, bullying in moderation is a good thing. Of course, these days the game has changed. It used to end when the school day was done. Now these kids get it 24/7.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:49 am to NYNolaguy1
It’s her daughter. Why would she need consent to do anything? This is a bullshite case. And if the bullying is so terrible and administration so incompetent that the mother had to resort to collecting evidence of bullying, then someone needs to investigate the staff of the school, not a protective mom.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:54 am to upgrayedd
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While not a popular opinion, bullying in moderation is a good thing. Of course, these days the game has changed. It used to end when the school day was done. Now these kids get it 24/7.
Typically I agree with your line of thinking; however, the mom out a recorder to collect evidence of bullying. That tells me one of two things: 1) the girl isn’t capable of defending herself for whatever reasons, or 2) the staff isn’t doing anything to discipline the bullies.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:55 am to DeafJam73
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It’s her daughter. Why would she need consent to do anything? T
Because her daughter is recording conversations that she isn't a part of.
Had her daughter gone in and only recorded the bully as the bully was messing with her, she would be perfectly fine. But since she went in with it on the whole time, recording everything, that is illegal. Not too hard to grasp the concept...
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:56 am to GeauxTigerTM
Just got to that part in the book. 
Posted on 11/28/17 at 12:02 pm to DeafJam73
How ridiculous.
I'm on our local school board. four years ago I led our school system to installing web cams in every classroom. All parents are given usernames and passwords that allow them to monitor their children's classes at any given time.
There was some definite pushback, there was even threats of lawsuits from both teachers and parents, but we insisted and I don't think many people would disagree that it has improved our schools.
Two years ago we expanded and put mobile wifi and webcams in all our school buses.
It's absolutely decreased the number of bullying incidents .
I'm on our local school board. four years ago I led our school system to installing web cams in every classroom. All parents are given usernames and passwords that allow them to monitor their children's classes at any given time.
There was some definite pushback, there was even threats of lawsuits from both teachers and parents, but we insisted and I don't think many people would disagree that it has improved our schools.
Two years ago we expanded and put mobile wifi and webcams in all our school buses.
It's absolutely decreased the number of bullying incidents .
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