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Mind/brain help for aging parents - Need suggestions
Posted on 3/2/21 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 3/2/21 at 12:37 pm
My mother-in-law is in her mid 70s and is really starting to lose her memory. We had her visit 2 different specialists that say it isn't Dementia or Alzheimer's, but rather attributed it to old age. (We don't agree, but who am I to argue)
It is to the point she is forgetting if she ate lunch that day or what day of the week it even is. She'll ask the same question 2-3 times in a single conversation. It is getting progressively worse. Long term memories seem to be fully intact, it's the short term stuff that reminds me of Dori Fish from Finding Nemo. It's really sad.
Are there any supplements or practices you guys have used for elderly family members that has helped their memory/brain function?
First things first, she has a terrible diet and doesn't drink a lot of water (like none). We're going to put her on a high fat (good fat) diet and track her water consumption. Thinking a daily crossword puzzle in the morning with her tea as well.
Anything else you guys have used? Supplements like B-complex?
It is to the point she is forgetting if she ate lunch that day or what day of the week it even is. She'll ask the same question 2-3 times in a single conversation. It is getting progressively worse. Long term memories seem to be fully intact, it's the short term stuff that reminds me of Dori Fish from Finding Nemo. It's really sad.
Are there any supplements or practices you guys have used for elderly family members that has helped their memory/brain function?
First things first, she has a terrible diet and doesn't drink a lot of water (like none). We're going to put her on a high fat (good fat) diet and track her water consumption. Thinking a daily crossword puzzle in the morning with her tea as well.
Anything else you guys have used? Supplements like B-complex?
Posted on 3/2/21 at 12:40 pm to CatfishJohn
My ex Father in Law began to get dementia fairly bad before he passed. His daughters put him on a strict Keto diet and swore he made great improvements. I wasn’t around enough to see both phases but I believe it helped. Can’t hurt to try imho. Good luck. That’s no fun
Posted on 3/2/21 at 12:57 pm to Beaux Man
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My ex Father in Law began to get dementia fairly bad before he passed. His daughters put him on a strict Keto diet and swore he made great improvements. I wasn’t around enough to see both phases but I believe it helped. Can’t hurt to try imho. Good luck. That’s no fun
High fat and low sugar diets are good for brain function and development. Kind of makes sense.
Thanks! I'll mention this.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 1:04 pm to The Torch
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Weed
Get edibles
I'm a big THC advocate, I mean I have a damn Grateful Dead song as my username, but I don't think this is the proper use case for medicinal weed
Short term memory needs to improve, not dissolve completely.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 1:05 pm to CatfishJohn
Prevagen gets advertised to hell and back?
It just appears to be something rendered from a jellyfish. Maybe if the folks in question are on blood thinners it could be an issue, but otherwise it can’t hurt to try?
Anybody here try it?
It just appears to be something rendered from a jellyfish. Maybe if the folks in question are on blood thinners it could be an issue, but otherwise it can’t hurt to try?
Anybody here try it?
Posted on 3/2/21 at 1:12 pm to CatfishJohn
Posted on 3/2/21 at 1:49 pm to CatfishJohn
B vitamin supplements. No alcohol.
Go through the refrigerator and cabinets and see how much long-expired food is in there.
Get a 3rd opinion from a doctor.
Go through the refrigerator and cabinets and see how much long-expired food is in there.
Get a 3rd opinion from a doctor.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 1:52 pm to deeprig9
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B vitamin supplements. No alcohol.
She hasn't had more than 15 drinks in her entire life. I've seen her sip my wife's wine a couple times in 20 years.
I'm doing the B-vitamins. Just ordered those and fish oil.
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Go through the refrigerator and cabinets and see how much long-expired food is in there.
What does this do? Are you just saying to do this because her memory is bad and she'll need help with doing this or does expired food have some sort of impact on the brain ?
Posted on 3/2/21 at 2:05 pm to CatfishJohn
This is just a 2 cents, with absolutely zero medical/education to back it up. Just a little experience with family members.
First, does she realize she has memory issues and wants to fix? And second, assume she lives alone? If she lives alone, see if there is some activity that she can do that puts her with other people. I know that's hard right now, but see what can be done. One of my grandma's had a great memory until an all of a sudden (probable stroke) event when she was 98. She lived on her own in a retirement apartment, but was around people a lot as she volunteered as a "foster grandmother" at a community center, where she played games and did various art activities with primarily inner city kids. My other grandmother's memory went downhill fast after my granddad died. She was by herself most of the time, with little social interaction. I'm convinced the difference between the two was social activity.
If she knows she has a problem and wants to fix it, help her find memory exercises that she enjoys. Search-a-word, crosswords, jumble puzzles, etc. Treat your brain like every other muscle that needs exercising. Short term memory especially can be exercised and improve. It may not have been the intended purpose, but your high school English teacher making you memorize Shakespeare soliloquies ("to be or not to be", etc) was helping you build up your short term memory.
If it's "just old age", and not a medical issue, the disuse of short term memory made it get out of shape. The good news is that it can be exercised and come back. But SHE has to want to do the exercise, which is why it needs to be something fun for her. Memorizing song lyrics, Shakespeare, doing puzzles, playing card games like concentration (can be done on computer or with an old fashioned deck of cards), etc.
First, does she realize she has memory issues and wants to fix? And second, assume she lives alone? If she lives alone, see if there is some activity that she can do that puts her with other people. I know that's hard right now, but see what can be done. One of my grandma's had a great memory until an all of a sudden (probable stroke) event when she was 98. She lived on her own in a retirement apartment, but was around people a lot as she volunteered as a "foster grandmother" at a community center, where she played games and did various art activities with primarily inner city kids. My other grandmother's memory went downhill fast after my granddad died. She was by herself most of the time, with little social interaction. I'm convinced the difference between the two was social activity.
If she knows she has a problem and wants to fix it, help her find memory exercises that she enjoys. Search-a-word, crosswords, jumble puzzles, etc. Treat your brain like every other muscle that needs exercising. Short term memory especially can be exercised and improve. It may not have been the intended purpose, but your high school English teacher making you memorize Shakespeare soliloquies ("to be or not to be", etc) was helping you build up your short term memory.
If it's "just old age", and not a medical issue, the disuse of short term memory made it get out of shape. The good news is that it can be exercised and come back. But SHE has to want to do the exercise, which is why it needs to be something fun for her. Memorizing song lyrics, Shakespeare, doing puzzles, playing card games like concentration (can be done on computer or with an old fashioned deck of cards), etc.
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 3/2/21 at 2:05 pm to CatfishJohn
Not a doctor but doesn't kidney problems or UTI cause weirdness in the elderly?
Posted on 3/2/21 at 2:10 pm to CatfishJohn
Not a doctor - but my suggestions -
Like you said - make sure she drinks water
Also, a little exercise will help - 10-15 minute walks (if she’s not doing anything)
Maybe get her some light dumbbells to do curls - sounds silly but it really helped my grandpa
Like you said - make sure she drinks water
Also, a little exercise will help - 10-15 minute walks (if she’s not doing anything)
Maybe get her some light dumbbells to do curls - sounds silly but it really helped my grandpa
Posted on 3/2/21 at 2:12 pm to CatfishJohn
Vitamin E is the only vitamin that has decent evidence that it might help Alzheimer’s. The important thing is that they see a dedicated geriatrician MD to go over meds, labs, and track her cognitive issues. I’ve heard promising things about CBD but probably not enough research to prove that at this point. That said, I doubt CBD would make it worse.
ETA: I’m an MD but not in primary care, although I do see a lot of elderly patients.
ETA: I’m an MD but not in primary care, although I do see a lot of elderly patients.
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 3/2/21 at 2:15 pm to CatfishJohn
I went through the Alzheimer's thing with my grandparents. Different Scenario. My way of dealing with it was like 50 first Dates. Whenever and wherever they thougth they were when they woke up I just went with it.
Play the old music, make the comfort food and play old westerns on TV. It really helped to keep them happy. But the bad days, they bad days were worse than anything I have read about. It would be like 50s wholesome some days and others I was in a southpark episode.
Play the old music, make the comfort food and play old westerns on TV. It really helped to keep them happy. But the bad days, they bad days were worse than anything I have read about. It would be like 50s wholesome some days and others I was in a southpark episode.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 2:23 pm to Napoleon
Google The 36 Hour Day and buy/read it yourself and have your siblings do the same. It will help you look for other things that may be happening and you can then have more information to give to the Neurologist.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 2:30 pm to CatfishJohn
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It is to the point she is forgetting if she ate lunch that day or what day of the week it even is.
This isn't normal??? I guess I need to get checked out in my 30's... and I definitely need to get my son checked out, I swear he eats lunch 3 times a day.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 2:35 pm to CatfishJohn
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It is to the point she is forgetting if she ate lunch that day or what day of the week it even is. She'll ask the same question 2-3 times in a single conversation
I'm no doctor, but this IS dementia. If not, what is it?
Posted on 3/2/21 at 2:37 pm to CatfishJohn
I've heard that doing little things that require using your mind, like puzzles, or crosswords or sudoku, can help improve brain function in older people. They say it can help with memory loss as well.
Now how much this has been verified, I don't know, but it's something that is really easy that could be tried to supplement whatever diet or vitamin/medicine regiment you decide to go with.
Now how much this has been verified, I don't know, but it's something that is really easy that could be tried to supplement whatever diet or vitamin/medicine regiment you decide to go with.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 2:55 pm to CatfishJohn
Mind Care supplements by a company called Himalaya work great for memory, I can attest to that. LINK
2 in the morning, 2 at night, a bottle of 120 lasts a month.
2 in the morning, 2 at night, a bottle of 120 lasts a month.
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 3/2/21 at 3:49 pm to CatfishJohn
I have family members with what they call mild cognitive issues, similar to what you've described. They both have seen neurologists who prescribed donepazil. It's supposed to keep those issues from getting worse. Other than that, I've noticed that stress makes things much worse. My mother-in-law had her biggest problems after the 2016 flood when they were forced out of their house for a year.
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