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re: Millennials earn 20% less than baby boomers did—despite being better educated

Posted on 11/7/19 at 10:58 am to
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 10:58 am to
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Or you fail to acknowledge that the world has changed and there are lot of folks out there struggling.


The older generation is out of touch with reality? Preposterous! It must be that all the children we raised are wrong! And it's their fault they turned out this way as well!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 10:59 am to
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and there are lot of folks out there struggling. 


Are you saying a lot of people didnt struggle 50 years sgo?
If you can afford food, housing and a new phone, you aren't struggling.

Your "first world problems" are very unimpressive.

Mentally weak.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 11:00 am to
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Also, I'm not going to google an obscure statistic about stay at home mom rates because it's not inherently connected, in any meaningful way, with the concept that life in 2019 is safer/easier than in prior decades.


So you're just going to go with totally unfounded generalizations and not back it with any sort of reference. I see your point, that does seem to be a lot more logical as opposed to point out a single area where in fact life is more difficult than it used to be in some ways.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 11:01 am to
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Are you saying a lot of people didnt struggle 50 years sgo?


Were they just mentally weak too then?
Posted by jclem11
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Member since Nov 2011
10028 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 11:03 am to
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Are you saying a lot of people didnt struggle 50 years sgo?


No. Never made such claim. You are the one who does not want to acknowledge the challenges that millenials are facing.

quote:

If you can afford food, housing and a new phone, you aren't struggling.


As has been discussed ad nauseum in this thread, housing, education, and medical care has all risen in price in insane ways compared to average wage growth. Most people, no matter the generation, are one major illness or job loss away from financial ruin.

You can still be struggling even if you have housing a new phone. If you are barely scraping by to make ends meet each month you are struggling. How dense are you?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 11:03 am to
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Or you fail to acknowledge that the world has changed and there are lot of folks out there struggling.



The world has changed and plenty of people struggle. But it's also changed in a shite ton of ways that are universally beneficial.


Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 11:05 am to
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How dense are you?


Granite levels of density.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 11:07 am to
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But it's also changed in a shite ton of ways that are universally beneficial.


That means it's also possible that it has changed in a shite ton of ways that are universally negative. It works both ways. That's the entire premise of the thread.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 11:09 am to
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I'd imagine boomers worked more than 20% harder than millennials too.


Well yea. Things like technology kind of play a factor.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46695 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 11:12 am to
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They still are a big thing, just for those at the top. We just call them golden parachutes now.


Those aren't pensions. Those are called severance packages. Sometimes these are negotiated up front, but even your average middle management cog will get a severance package.

You seem to have a real issue with envy of those more successful than you.

Do you complain this much about your fellow millenials who have made it to the C-level already and have these golden parachutes?
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
23234 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 11:12 am to
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You people are so mentally weak.

Says the alcoholic Roger.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41902 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 11:13 am to
The irony is that he's probably the mentally weakest person he knows.

I wonder how long it's been since getting drunk was more important to him than not destroying his family.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 11:14 am to
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Those aren't pensions. Those are called severance packages. Sometimes these are negotiated up front, but even your average middle management cog will get a severance package.


Like I said, we just call them different things now.
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 11:14 am to
lmao this thread is best I've read in awhile.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 11:15 am to
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So you're just going to go with totally unfounded generalizations and not back it with any sort of reference. I see your point, that does seem to be a lot more logical as opposed to point out a single area where in fact life is more difficult than it used to be in some ways.



Ok, people are living 6 years longer on average than they were in 1975

Child mortality rates are fractions of what they were in the 70s

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46695 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 11:16 am to
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Like I said, we just call them different things now.


A severance package is not a pension.

Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 11:16 am to
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That means it's also possible that it has changed in a shite ton of ways that are universally negative. It works both ways. That's the entire premise of the thread.



Then why is your focus solely on the universal negativity?

How does that factor into your position that life is harder than it was decades ago?
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 11:19 am to
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Then why is your focus solely on the universal negativity?


The premise of the thread is a negative. Therefore, when the usual posters come in to try and demonize the younger demographic, you have to argue from the negative focus. It's not rocket surgery.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 11:20 am to
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You can still be struggling even if you have housing a new phone. If you are barely scraping by to make ends meet each month you are struggling. How dense are you?



The point lost in these discussions is that "barely scraping by" often means something radically different in 2019 than in 1960. "Barely scraping by" frequently meant a bad day away from serious illness/injury/death/destitution in prior decades.

It very rarely means that now. That doesn't mean, of course, that outlooks for millennials in a radically different world aren't poor, or that it's obnoxious for people who cruised to a pension to belittle reasonable millennials who have no such "bootstrap" options. But the consequences for not "scraping by" have changed a lot.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11984 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 11:20 am to
Is this the thread where millenials complain about how progressives have made vital goods and services more expensive and they pass the blame on boomers while simaltaneously supporting more progressive policies?

I have never read such cucked soy shite in my life
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