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re: Midland (TX) Police Officer killed by man who thought his home was being burglarized

Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:41 am to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:41 am to
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have the kind of mistrust of government that Americans had in the early days of its founding.


Ehh it’s not really mistrust in government if you’re constantly calling for federal oversight of local and state matters though
Posted by Box Geauxrilla
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:42 am to
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Heidelberg, his probationary police officer

Not reading 7 pages, but did anybody notice this part?

This makes me think it was not an accident.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:42 am to
Probationary meaning an officer in training. Not a probations officer
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:44 am to
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Maybe because it's not true.



Well, then maybe in the future don't post the following:
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Although I don't agree with anything BLM or anything similar, in a way I'm kind of glad it's happening because we need some of that push back against the 'government is good' or 'government is my daddy/protector mentality'.


You very clearly are OK with their nonsense because it gets to the end that you want regarding distrust of government. You're basically saying "yea Hitler was a shithead, but..."

BLM is a horrible group to bring up for the point you're trying to make.

Posted by Box Geauxrilla
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:44 am to
Lol I’m an idiot. Thanks.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:44 am to
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Exactly. Police do not constitutionally have the authority to invade homes against a homeowner’s wishes without a warrant. It’s called the 4th amendment.


Who said that the cops invaded any homes? The article doesn't state whether the officer was outside in the yard or inside the house. Secondly, if you don't want cops on your property don't sign up with an alarm company that automatically calls the police when an alarm activates. The company calls the homeowner prior to contacting police, so the shooter had several opportunities to either verify those were police officers or cancel the response.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:44 am to
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Ehh it’s not really mistrust in government if you’re constantly calling for federal oversight of local and state matters though




Didn't even address that part yet.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:45 am to
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Ehh it’s not really mistrust in government if you’re constantly calling for federal oversight of local and state matters though


What are you referring to? If you referring to BLM then yes I agree. I kind of expected someone to say that. It's a lot like the Black Panthers. They're Communists. I loathe communism. However, I like certain aspects of their movement. They were all about taking care of their own. They were about family structure. They were about black man standing up and acting like men. They believed in the Second Amendment. They didn't trust law enforcement. They started their own schools and educated their own young. They believed in taking care of their own and participated in a insular community the way a lot of Asian communities do across America.

Those are all things I can appreciate about them despite the fact that they were pinkos.

Life isnt black and white as the media and current political climate tries to portray. Life is different shades of grey.
This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 8:46 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:46 am to
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Who said that the cops invaded any homes? The article doesn't state whether the officer was outside in the yard or inside the house. Secondly, if you don't want cops on your property don't sign up with an alarm company that automatically calls the police when an alarm activates. The company calls the homeowner prior to contacting police, so the shooter had several opportunities to either verify those were police officers or cancel the response.


Like I said, so many important details are missing for anyone make any real deductions about this story yet.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:47 am to
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Life isnt black and white as the media and current political climate tries to portray. Life is different shades of grey.
Yet you've already made up your mind on this case
Posted by TechDawg2007
Bawville
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:48 am to
Couldn’t ANYONE say “I’m the police” loudly over and over though? I’m siding with the homeowner
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:49 am to
I thought it was pretty clear even in my own quote that you used, that I was referring to their distaste of law enforcement not any of their other ideology or actions. They don't even pick the right cases when it comes to abuse of power from law enforcement.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:51 am to
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I thought it was pretty clear even in my own quote that you used, that I was referring to their distaste of law enforcement not any of their other ideology or actions


It's clear that you're glad it's happening, because that's what you said.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:52 am to
How do you figure? Im the one in here up voting everybody for saying that we need more facts before any clear-cut conclusions can be drawn. That doesn't mean we can't have conversations about what facts we do know assuming it's the only ones in existence, which we know is highly unlikely.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:52 am to
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Blinded by flashlights.


How do you know he was blinded by flashlights? You have no idea whether the officers pointed their flashlights at the owner or not. You've popped off about 4 or 5 times without knowing any of the facts.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:52 am to
Was his house alarm going off? I don't know about y'all, but my house alarm is so loud I can't even hear myself think when it goes off. There is no way I could hear someone yell at my front door if I was in my bedroom.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:52 am to
And I've already explained what I meant by that yet you still think you know better than I do about my own thoughts. Whatever makes you feel better buddy.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:53 am to
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And I've already explained what I meant by that yet you still think you know better than I do about my own thoughts. Whatever makes you feel better buddy.


You said even though you don't agree with them, you're kind of glad it's happening. I'm sorry that those are the words you chose and now are trying to back away from, but you chose them.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:55 am to
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They don't even pick the right cases when it comes to abuse of power from law enforcement.


This is something I’ve been saying from the beginning. Why does it seem like every case they push to the forefront of the national attention prove to be a lie, or at least seems like a lie
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89135 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:55 am to
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How do you figure?


Your words.
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This is just one of those unfortunate situations that everybody just kind of has to walk away from. But in typical law enforcement fashion, 'somebody has to be charged with something'.


You already seem to know that the homeowner did nothing wrong.
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