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re: Midland (TX) Police Officer killed by man who thought his home was being burglarized
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:41 am to nola000
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:41 am to nola000
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have the kind of mistrust of government that Americans had in the early days of its founding.
Ehh it’s not really mistrust in government if you’re constantly calling for federal oversight of local and state matters though
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:42 am to TigersSEC2010
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Heidelberg, his probationary police officer
Not reading 7 pages, but did anybody notice this part?
This makes me think it was not an accident.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:42 am to Box Geauxrilla
Probationary meaning an officer in training. Not a probations officer
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:44 am to nola000
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Maybe because it's not true.
Well, then maybe in the future don't post the following:
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Although I don't agree with anything BLM or anything similar, in a way I'm kind of glad it's happening because we need some of that push back against the 'government is good' or 'government is my daddy/protector mentality'.
You very clearly are OK with their nonsense because it gets to the end that you want regarding distrust of government. You're basically saying "yea Hitler was a shithead, but..."
BLM is a horrible group to bring up for the point you're trying to make.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:44 am to Oilfieldbiology
Lol I’m an idiot. Thanks.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:44 am to theunknownknight
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Exactly. Police do not constitutionally have the authority to invade homes against a homeowner’s wishes without a warrant. It’s called the 4th amendment.
Who said that the cops invaded any homes? The article doesn't state whether the officer was outside in the yard or inside the house. Secondly, if you don't want cops on your property don't sign up with an alarm company that automatically calls the police when an alarm activates. The company calls the homeowner prior to contacting police, so the shooter had several opportunities to either verify those were police officers or cancel the response.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:44 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Ehh it’s not really mistrust in government if you’re constantly calling for federal oversight of local and state matters though
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:45 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Ehh it’s not really mistrust in government if you’re constantly calling for federal oversight of local and state matters though
What are you referring to? If you referring to BLM then yes I agree. I kind of expected someone to say that. It's a lot like the Black Panthers. They're Communists. I loathe communism. However, I like certain aspects of their movement. They were all about taking care of their own. They were about family structure. They were about black man standing up and acting like men. They believed in the Second Amendment. They didn't trust law enforcement. They started their own schools and educated their own young. They believed in taking care of their own and participated in a insular community the way a lot of Asian communities do across America.
Those are all things I can appreciate about them despite the fact that they were pinkos.
Life isnt black and white as the media and current political climate tries to portray. Life is different shades of grey.
This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 8:46 am
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:46 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Who said that the cops invaded any homes? The article doesn't state whether the officer was outside in the yard or inside the house. Secondly, if you don't want cops on your property don't sign up with an alarm company that automatically calls the police when an alarm activates. The company calls the homeowner prior to contacting police, so the shooter had several opportunities to either verify those were police officers or cancel the response.
Like I said, so many important details are missing for anyone make any real deductions about this story yet.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:47 am to nola000
quote:Yet you've already made up your mind on this case
Life isnt black and white as the media and current political climate tries to portray. Life is different shades of grey.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:48 am to Pesticide
Couldn’t ANYONE say “I’m the police” loudly over and over though? I’m siding with the homeowner
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:49 am to LNCHBOX
I thought it was pretty clear even in my own quote that you used, that I was referring to their distaste of law enforcement not any of their other ideology or actions. They don't even pick the right cases when it comes to abuse of power from law enforcement.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:51 am to nola000
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I thought it was pretty clear even in my own quote that you used, that I was referring to their distaste of law enforcement not any of their other ideology or actions
It's clear that you're glad it's happening, because that's what you said.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:52 am to LNCHBOX
How do you figure? Im the one in here up voting everybody for saying that we need more facts before any clear-cut conclusions can be drawn. That doesn't mean we can't have conversations about what facts we do know assuming it's the only ones in existence, which we know is highly unlikely.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:52 am to theunknownknight
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Blinded by flashlights.
How do you know he was blinded by flashlights? You have no idea whether the officers pointed their flashlights at the owner or not. You've popped off about 4 or 5 times without knowing any of the facts.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:52 am to TigersSEC2010
Was his house alarm going off? I don't know about y'all, but my house alarm is so loud I can't even hear myself think when it goes off. There is no way I could hear someone yell at my front door if I was in my bedroom.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:52 am to LNCHBOX
And I've already explained what I meant by that yet you still think you know better than I do about my own thoughts. Whatever makes you feel better buddy.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:53 am to nola000
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And I've already explained what I meant by that yet you still think you know better than I do about my own thoughts. Whatever makes you feel better buddy.
You said even though you don't agree with them, you're kind of glad it's happening. I'm sorry that those are the words you chose and now are trying to back away from, but you chose them.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:55 am to nola000
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They don't even pick the right cases when it comes to abuse of power from law enforcement.
This is something I’ve been saying from the beginning. Why does it seem like every case they push to the forefront of the national attention prove to be a lie, or at least seems like a lie
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:55 am to nola000
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How do you figure?
Your words.
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This is just one of those unfortunate situations that everybody just kind of has to walk away from. But in typical law enforcement fashion, 'somebody has to be charged with something'.
You already seem to know that the homeowner did nothing wrong.
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