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re: Midland (TX) Police Officer killed by man who thought his home was being burglarized

Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:21 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:21 am to
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If you are gonna shoot someone with a flashlight inspecting an alarm going off, why would you hire an alarm company?

Yea, I have no clue what is going on here.

So many posters early in the thread saying the police shouldn't even be there.

It surely seemed like a very tough situation for the homeowner. But if you have an alarm, which is the case here correct? ... you have set an expectation for a cop to come to your house if the alarm goes off, and i'm just not sure given the little we know how we can say the cops shouldn't have been there or even this was just a horrible accident that no one is at fault for. I think based on what we know, pending much more that will come out, I'd have to think the homeowner has face some charge here.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112898 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:23 am to
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Are silent home alarms a thing?

Depends on the scenario, maybe out of scope for this issue, but yes.

On my old alarm, i could push in a 4 digit code, and it would alert police without an alarm going off.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:25 am to
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Well, choose better words next time. Or don't.


The words were fine. Your interpretation was hard-headed and reactionary. You're not unique in that regard. I noticed a lot of times on this forum people extrapolate meanings from things. It leads to a lot of arguments. Like, pages of arguments. fricking semantics, man.
This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 9:30 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:26 am to
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The words were fine


Fine for saying that you are kind of glad BLM stuff is happening.
quote:

Your interpretation was hard-headed and reactionary.
quote:

You're not unique in that regard. I noticed a lot of times on this forum people extrapolate meanings from things. At least to a lot of arguments. Like, pages of arguments. fricking semantics, man.



It's not semantics. You literally said that you're kind of glad it's happening. There is no misinterpretation to be made.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:29 am to
That changes things
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:30 am to
Jesus fricking Christ you're hard headed. I've already addressed it in a billion different ways and times. I could tell you something is orange and you going to tell me it's blue.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:32 am to
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I could tell you something is orange and you going to tell me it's blue.



I'm telling you that you said exactly what you said. I can't help that you are either so bad at getting a thought out that it could be so misconstrued or you are unwilling to admit that you are OK with the means of BLM because it justifies your end.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112898 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:34 am to
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3 am. Woken up to the sound of several men breaking down your door.
So, old boy just slep through the alarm going off, is that right?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:37 am to
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So, old boy just slep through the alarm going off, is that right?


it's possible

or he heard the alarm go off, was on alert, and saw someone in his house and shot

I wonder how long it took the police to respond
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:37 am to
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So, old boy just slep through the alarm going off, is that right?

Or he woke up to an alarm, thinking someone may be trying to get in...
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:38 am to
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Or he woke up to an alarm, thinking someone may be trying to get in...



That only really makes sens if the cops are the ones that set the alarm off. That doesn't appear to be the case.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112898 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:39 am to
We obviously need so much more facts here. Was the door actually open? Who opened it?

I'll just say generally, if you have an alarm, you are quite literally stating you want cops to come to your house when that alarm goes off. If it turns out the dude shot the come without identifying them at all, there just HAS to be consequences for that. I feel for the spot he was in, but I just don't think that's JUST a horrible accident that we can all just gloss over and move on from.

But as I said, we certainly don't know if that is exactly how it played out.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:40 am to
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That only really makes sens if the cops are the ones that set the alarm off. That doesn't appear to be the case.



depends on response time

and he might have hid his family before trying to check out the house

Posted by CC
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:41 am to
What you posted doesn’t say the officer was in the home. That makes a difference.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:41 am to
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I'll just say generally, if you have an alarm, you are quite literally stating you want cops to come to your house when that alarm goes off.


people panic

quote:

If it turns out the dude shot the come without identifying them at all, there just HAS to be consequences for that. I feel for the spot he was in, but I just don't think that's JUST a horrible accident that we can all just gloss over and move on from.



why?

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:42 am to
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depends on response time

and he might have hid his family before trying to check out the house



Unless the were there in under a minute from the alarm going off, I just don't see how he doesn't have the presence of mind to know that cops will be coming.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:43 am to
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I just don't see how he doesn't have the presence of mind to know that cops will be coming.


his mind was probably in panic mode
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:44 am to
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quote:

If it turns out the dude shot the come without identifying them at all, there just HAS to be consequences for that. I feel for the spot he was in, but I just don't think that's JUST a horrible accident that we can all just gloss over and move on from.



why?


Because he killed someone for no reason if it played out like that. Obviously it wouldn't warrant a murder charge, but you don't usually get to accidentally kill someone with absolutely zero consequences.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:44 am to
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his mind was probably in panic mode


That's not a get out of jail free card IMO.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112898 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:45 am to
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people panic
I'm aware. I don't think that is a valid excuse to take someone life when it's someone you signed up to come to your home in that exact scenario without facing consequences.

quote:

why?
Because he killed the person he signed up to come to his house in that exact scenario without identifying who he was even shooting at? Again, that response is moreso in general, before anyone jumps at it.
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