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re: Microsoft says these are the 40 jobs with the lowest risk of being taken over by AI

Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:27 am to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:27 am to
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This will quickly become a Mingo cope thread where he goes to supernova levels if douchebag


My profession isn’t on either list
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
3806 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:28 am to
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RIP to the 3k historians left


Not that there are a lot of working historians out there, but AI might be really good at telling you what we already know about history, but I cannot see how it would be any good at developing new knowledge about history without human assistance, especially not based on old texts, artifacts, etc. Learning new things about history requires being in and interacting with the world.

In contrast for example I could see it eventually pushing math forward since that's abstractions and concepts.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
5184 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:30 am to
I’ve read where AI will replace authors but what I like about books is the author’s take and authenticity. An AI written book doesn’t appeal to me
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
14400 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:31 am to
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My profession isn’t on either list


Living in mom's basement isn't a profession bro.
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
17195 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:35 am to
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For every person you replace for greater efficiency via AI you also take that person’s economic contribution off the table.


That is why I don’t understand the UBI discussion. How does UBI get payed when you’ve lost all that payroll tax income. If you get it from the businesses, then what benefit is it to the to have to pay the costs associated with AI and also worker pay?

Unless that worker pay will be very little. Probably explains the you will own nothing talk. Will it work like they think it will. I doubt it. If the AI doesn’t wipe us out first, I see widespread uprisings and violence.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179042 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:39 am to
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That is why I don’t understand the UBI discussion. How does UBI get payed when you’ve lost all that payroll tax income. If you get it from the businesses, then what benefit is it to the to have to pay the costs associated with AI and also worker pay?



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As robots and AI reduce the demand for human labor, the tax base (wages, payroll taxes) shrinks. That means new funding models are needed:

Automation/Robot Taxes: Companies that replace human workers with machines could be taxed on the value created by automation. Bill Gates famously suggested this.

Value-Added Taxes (VAT): A broad consumption tax (like in Europe) could fund UBI. Since AI will increase production and lower costs, some argue taxing consumption spreads the burden more fairly.

Wealth & Capital Taxes: As wealth increasingly concentrates in owners of AI, data, and robotics infrastructure, taxing capital gains, large fortunes, or corporate profits could recycle wealth back to society.

Resource Rents (Land, Energy, Data):

Land value taxes (Henry George’s idea, revived).

Carbon/resource taxes (tying UBI to sustainability).

Data dividends: since individuals generate data that trains AI, governments could mandate payouts from companies monetizing it.

Sovereign Wealth Funds: Like Alaska’s Permanent Fund (oil revenues fund annual dividends), nations could create funds seeded with taxes on AI-driven industries, intellectual property, or natural resources.



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The Likely Future

UBI or a variant (like negative income tax, targeted dividends) becomes politically necessary as labor loses bargaining power.

Funding will likely be a blend: automation taxes + consumption taxes + sovereign wealth funds.




It doesn't seem sustainable and the wealth divide will only increase. It will also be pretty disastrous for men who are naturally programmed to be providers.

Posted by honeybadger697
Member since May 2024
83 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:40 am to
What about engineers? I would think they would be hard to replace.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36121 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:40 am to
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Living in mom's basement isn't a profession bro.


Neither is living in an in patient facility
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18789 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:41 am to
"Mostly" is a gross overestimate, your lack of education is why you think that. Words are important but you are still a fricking moron.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
8996 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:42 am to
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Sounds like a socialist wet dream to me


Guys like Sam Altman are discussing this as well. The funding for the UBI would come from the profits off of AI.....from the AI companies. If the owners of these companies are seemingly already on board with this idea and its not the government forcing them to write checks to the American people... do you still think its socialism?
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
17195 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:43 am to
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It doesn't seem sustainable and the wealth divide will only increase. It will also be pretty disastrous for men who are naturally programmed to be providers.


It won’t go like their sunshine models. There will be lots of violence and revolutions. The US Government will be in the greatest danger because of our 2nd Amendment.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36121 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:43 am to
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Mostly" is a gross overestimate,


I disagree, while mostly is not a defined scientific term, I define it as more than half. We can, of course, fundamentally disagree in the overall point, but more than half of those are repetitive tasks that don’t need generative AI to automate.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18789 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:43 am to
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My profession isn’t on either list


List is PG, you being a "Professional Cock Holster" will definitely get replaced by AI and robotics.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
4266 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:44 am to
a lot of "neck-down" poor people jobs on that list
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36121 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:44 am to
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you being a "Professional Cock Holster" will definitely get replaced by AI and robotics.


You wouldn’t need AI to replace this profession, similar to most on the list that I mentioned.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
45572 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:45 am to
AI could easily do bridge and lock tenders
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
62639 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:45 am to
Looks like oilfield baws are safe. Won't be replaced with RoBaws.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179042 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:46 am to
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If the owners of these companies are seemingly already on board with this idea and its not the government forcing them to write checks to the American people... do you still think its socialism?


That's very close to Philanthrocapitalism. Look it up. It's not really a concept we should be basing society on.

Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
17195 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:47 am to
In the past with progress like the Industrial Revolution, new jobs developed like building those machines, selling services. What new could pop up after AI take over? Who knows? Building and selling server farms maybe, but the AI can probably manage a lot of that.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
5359 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:48 am to
Ain’t no computer reinforcing industrial, commercial, or residential structures… so I’m good


I hope
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