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re: MH370 Captain was suicidal, aviation experts say

Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:04 pm to
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6825 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:04 pm to
That Australian news report is terrible. There's no new or even hard evidence given.

An onboard fire is most likely.
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:09 pm to
Wrong. That MFer was homicidal, muslim style. I absolutely hate the term suicide bomber. Nope, homicide bomber. A suicide bomber would only blow up themselve.
Posted by biscuitsngravy
Tejas, north America
Member since Jan 2011
3978 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:45 pm to
Sounds legit. Especially after the found he had been practicing the route on a flight simulator at his house. Overnight flight. After everyone was asleep dude switched off radar flew over his hometown then flew south. They have now confirmed he ziz zagged to avoid radar same as he practiced. Craziness. Ok if you want to commit suicide but why mass murder in the process?!
Posted by Pioneer BS 175
Pcola
Member since Jul 2015
1307 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:45 pm to
Was the theory had by Don Lemon of CNN that the plane was absorbed by a black hole ever disproven?

Just sayin’.
Posted by RunningBlake
Member since Aug 2011
4124 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:51 pm to
So does this mean that the passengers/crew died of asphyxiation before the crash?
Posted by Tigertracks
Houma La.
Member since Nov 2007
767 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 6:22 pm to
Data transmissions indicated the plane flew hundreds of miles south. I doubt an onboard fire would have allowed the plane to stay in the air that long, makes no sense. He crashed it intentionally.
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6825 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 6:26 pm to
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Data transmissions indicated the plane flew hundreds of miles south. I doubt an onboard fire would have allowed the plane to stay in the air that long, makes no sense. He crashed it intentionally.


Depends on the location and severity of the fire.

The Wired article jcaz linked is a good read.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
24357 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 6:29 pm to
Well this is a little bit of a relief. It would have been more of a tragedy to have a pilot that didn’t want to die on that plane.
Posted by m57
Flyover Country
Member since May 2017
2614 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 6:31 pm to
And we are supposed to assume the copilot sat there and willingly allowed all this to happen?

What proof do they have of any of this report?
This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 6:31 pm
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 6:35 pm to
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Was the theory had by Don Lemon of CNN that the plane was absorbed by a black hole ever disproven? 


Hmm considering what would happen being pulled into a black hole, slamming into the ocean would be a blessing.

OTOH, if something like what hapened in Millennium it might be cool if theres no one you'd miss.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19448 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 6:39 pm to
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Wrong. That MFer was homicidal, muslim style. I absolutely hate the term suicide bomber. Nope, homicide bomber. A suicide bomber would only blow up themselve.


Do you have anything to substantiate this besides his having a Muslim sounding name?
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 6:41 pm to
quote:

And we are supposed to assume the copilot sat there and willingly allowed all this to happen?


He could have disabled the other pilot by any number of means, or like the pilot that deliberately crashed the plane in Europe, waited until the other pilot went to the restroom and locked him out of the cockpit.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
73782 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 6:42 pm to
quote:

That plane is in a hanger in either Afghanistan or Pakistan getting retooled.


That plane up in a muffukin chop shop.
Posted by aileron
H-Town
Member since Apr 2018
246 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

And we are supposed to assume the copilot sat there and willingly allowed all this to happen?


Crash axe...easy.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76158 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 8:23 pm to
MH370 got trapped in the outlet worm hole for the Bermuda Triangle.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
15168 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 8:42 pm to
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I call bullshite.
I believe it was a fire in the cockpit.
Fire either disabled comms and transponder or pilots did as part of emergency checklist. (Circuit breakers reset)
The sudden and deliberate turn directly to a long runway in Malaysia makes me think he was diverting and couldn’t communicate. By the time he turned it was too late. Crew was incapacitated due to fire/smoke.
Plane continues to fly on same heading until fuel is exhausted.


There's one huge problem with this theory. How does a plane that's on fire fly on for 2 to 3 more hours.

Eta - Airplanes with on board fires don't fly for long. Either an emergency landing is made or the plane goes down after the fire grows and destroys the FMS or control linkages.
This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 8:56 pm
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19459 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 11:32 pm to
Only the cockpit experiences a fire but not enough to knock out its ability to fly. Or the fire eventually went out but had already taken out the crew. It’s happened before on the ground. I don’t believe the pilot suicide theory. Edit: Do you even fly by wire brah?
This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 11:34 pm
Posted by AA77
Member since Jan 2016
3874 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 11:42 pm to
Terrorist generally brag about their attacks. It’s been a few years and nobody has stepped up to say it was their group.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
178343 posts
Posted on 5/15/18 at 12:31 am to
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So how did he keep the crew out of the cabin ?

He either incapacitated them somehow or got them to leave the cabin. Same thing the Germanwings co-pilot who crashed his plane did. Post-9/11 cockpit doors are locked and the pilot has to hit a switch to allow people inside. So once you’re out there’s no getting back inside unless the pilot lets you in.

It would have been a massive failure of standard protocol as two people are supposed to be in the cockpit at all times to prevent such things. Just like the Germanwings flight where the co-pilot gave the captain some drugs to make him have to take a shite. But Asian airline pilots aren’t known as being the industry’s gold standard so I wouldn’t doubt that it happened.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 5/15/18 at 4:50 am to
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I am thinking there may have been another motivation


Thousands of all-Muslim flight crews fly planes without incident every day of the year. Emirates and Qatar Airlines are considered some of the best airlines in the world year after year.
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