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re: Merriam-Webster changes the definition of “girl”
Posted on 7/19/22 at 5:49 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Posted on 7/19/22 at 5:49 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:
The meanings of words has always been fluid. 7 Words That Mean The Opposite Of What They Used To But ima still stick with meaning 1 a (1).
There are reaches, and then there is this post.
Sheesh you must have no dignity shilling with that garbage
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 5:49 pm to OMLandshark
Satan’s grip is tightening around the throat of society.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 5:51 pm to Naked Bootleg
quote:
We are talking about a tiny, miniscule fraction of the population at large.
We are not talking about a miniscule fraction of the population in the academies. It is a movement that has been growing steadily since the 60s and until recently was ignored because it was thought the ideology wouldn't last in the real world. This has proven false.
The end goal of the ideology is to overturn all systems it deems oppressive which is pretty much all of them.
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 7/19/22 at 5:52 pm to Iron Lion
quote:George Orwell was clearly a time traveler at this point. I can understand why he wanted to get the hell out of this time period.
Straight out of 1984
Posted on 7/19/22 at 5:54 pm to Ross
quote:It's true - but it's also true that the very nature of language is constant change.
when the definitions of words are fluid and change with the winds of emotion, words lose their meaning and we lose the ability to communicate ideas effectively
Posted on 7/19/22 at 5:58 pm to Iron Lion
Just wait, definition number 1 will disappear soon enough.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 5:58 pm to Big Scrub TX
I’d argue that a time constant of change of hundreds of years doesn’t impact our ability to convey ideas effectively within a generation, but changing definitions of words suddenly and discontinuously, with political motivations, is bound to create a deep schism in our ability to foster a debate because we won’t be able to communicate our ideas clearly. I think this has already happened with words like “violence” and “racism” and it’s only getting worse.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 6:05 pm to jamboybarry
quote:quote:
ima still stick with meaning 1 a (1).
...shilling with that garbage
Really? You think the first definition is garbage?
Boy, you people sure overreact when someone just points out a little hyperbole. Yes, our words' meanings often change - and often times even to the opposite of their original meaning.
Do I think the meaning of "girl" should include males? No, but it doesn't matter what I think, people are already doing it all over. Are they stupid? Maybe, Will it stick? Maybe.
I won't get excited until they change meaning 1 a (1), though.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 6:06 pm to OMLandshark
Okay so what exactly does female
Mean now?
Mean now?
Posted on 7/19/22 at 6:08 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
My response to you is basically identical to my last post, with respect to our ability to have debates across idealogical divides. The definitions of words shifting suddenly and not over decades of centuries, and with obvious political motivations and emotional impetus guiding it, has and will continue to have a profound effect on the ability of people to even converse when coming from different idealogical backgrounds.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 6:08 pm to Naked Bootleg
More witches (Wiccans) in America than trans people.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 6:12 pm to OMLandshark
You can’t change DNA. You’re either born male or female and will never change that. Any other beliefs regarding that are strictly mental illness and bullshite.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 6:15 pm to Ross
quote:
when the definitions of words are fluid and change with the winds of emotion, words lose their meaning and we lose the ability to communicate ideas effectively
That's the entire point.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 6:15 pm to OMLandshark
Oh hell no
Posted on 7/19/22 at 6:17 pm to OMLandshark
Can't change them chromosomes. You can call yourself whatever you want but at the end of the day you either a male or female. Whichever one God assigned to you.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 6:18 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:
The meanings of words has always been fluid.
Your example shows how words drifted over hundreds of years.
Not ten.
What's going on now is not natural language drift. This is targeted and deliberate. And to think otherwise is either because you're A) being obtuse B) a fricking moron or C) agree with those who are deliberately changing language for political purposes.
I'll let you "identify" as which of the above you are.
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 7/19/22 at 6:18 pm to Ross
quote:Sudden changes in the meaning of "freedom", "liberty", and "self-determination" gave us the American Revolution. Sudden changes in the definition of "man" gave us the end of race-based slavery.
The definitions of words shifting suddenly and not over decades of centuries, and with obvious political motivations and emotional impetus guiding it, has and will continue to have a profound effect on the ability of people to even converse when coming from different idealogical backgrounds.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 6:19 pm to Centinel
quote:
That's the entire point.
I just don't know what the endgame is, other than avoiding a discourse in favor of erasing certain perspectives from society.
But I've seen through the subtle manipulations of the word "violence" (i.e. "silence is violence", or "hate speech is violence") how people wield the emotional energy assigned to a word to rally up the masses for a cause. But it comes at the expense of words having clear and concise meaning, and ultimately at the expense of people being able to have coherent debates.
I just don't know where that story ends.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 6:21 pm to Gravitiger
quote:
Sudden changes in the meaning of "freedom", "liberty", and "self-determination" gave us the American Revolution
horseshite.
quote:
Sudden changes in the definition of "man" gave us the end of race-based slavery.
Also horseshite.
The above tells me you never opened a page of Locke, Rousseau, Bastiat, etc.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 6:21 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:oh, bless your heart. you think it's going to stop LOL.
I won't get excited until they change meaning 1 a (1), though.
just let us remove one racist statue, that's it.
just let us visit our gay partners in the hospital, that's all we ask.
just let us get married like everyone else, that's all we're asking.
just let us creep into the dictionary and start bending the definition "girl", that's all we ask. Don't worry, that first 1 a (1) definitely won't change, I promise!
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 6:22 pm
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