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re: Merging lanes...which driver are you?
Posted on 3/22/16 at 8:47 pm to tigerbutt
Posted on 3/22/16 at 8:47 pm to tigerbutt
Honestly, Im not the one that has issues merging or driving in general.
You're being a bitch about something you should have learned when you were 16. Maybe you need to drivers ed for dummies or something.
You're being a bitch about something you should have learned when you were 16. Maybe you need to drivers ed for dummies or something.
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:27 am to tigerbutt
People should be ticketed on the spot for failing to zipper merge!
Learn to Zipper Merge, asshats
Learn to Zipper Merge, asshats
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Studies by the Texas Transportation Institute, Minnesota Department of Transportation and Federal Highway Administration have shown that the zipper merge (thus named because both lanes are used and drivers take turns merging one car at a time, like the teeth of a zipper) improves traffic flow by as much as 15 percent, according to the Detroit News. MnDOT also found it reduces the total length of a backup by as much as 50 percent, and commonly by 40 percent.improves traffic flow by as much as 15 percent, according to the Detroit News. MnDOT also found it reduces the total length of a backup by as much as 50 percent, and commonly by 40 percent.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 6:26 am to tigerbutt
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This particular merge is right after an intersection at greenwell springs and central thruway extension. Blocking the merge lane causes traffic to block the intersection.
not familiar with the area.
But, merging at a point causes the chance of having to brake. If you merged when there was an opening, then you wouldn't have to slow(brake) to get in or someone doesn't have to slow(brake) to let you in.
Think about it for a second. Is traffic "faster" in the one land road after the merge? Like there's a bit of a pile up(congestion) going into the merge, and once merged the cars go faster?
Understanding that the slowing is caused by the merging and the insistent need for people to get one-two more car lengths ahead before having to slow and then merge causing the car they moved in front of to brake.
This is unnecessary compression that if people naturally merged when it would affect no one else, no braking would occur and the flow of traffic would not be hindered. It only takes ONE SHITBAG to cause compression traffic.
I think this is the video, can't open at work
Posted on 3/23/16 at 6:33 am to tigerbutt
I drive until the end. If I am in the actual lane where people are merging into and someone is at the end, I let them in. It is easiest that way.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 7:14 am to Gaston
frick man you're better than that. You use the whole lane when you need it to merge into the other lane at speed. Stupid fricks stopping to get over before the end and stupid fricks either stopping to let people in or not letting people in at all are the problem.
New Orleans people are 100% unable to master the concept of merge.
New Orleans people are 100% unable to master the concept of merge.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 7:33 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:Has to happen no matter what. Early merging makes the pinch point move with no stops. Zipper merging is a huge lie.
stopping to let people in
Posted on 3/23/16 at 7:34 am to tigerbutt
it depends. if i'm already in the lane that people are merging into, i stay there. if i'm in the lane that merges into the other, i stay there til the merging point.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 7:39 am to tigerbutt
You talking about right after the thruway? You are the dick that makes others slow down. Then you run into 45 mph speed zone so wtf are you doing trying to pass people?
Posted on 3/23/16 at 7:40 am to forever lsu30
Have you ever seen a "zipper merge" work in real life? I haven't.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 7:40 am to MorbidTheClown
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it depends. if i'm already in the lane that people are merging into, i stay there. if i'm in the lane that merges into the other, i stay there til the merging point.
This, it doesn't help anything by getting over early, just merge when it's time to merge.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 7:43 am to GetCocky11
Yes. Primarily in cities that encourage it.
A 1 to 1 merge aka the zipper merge is scientifically proven to be the best method. Just need everyone on the same page.
Letting 2 or more cars in 1 lane go then 1 from the 2nd lane isn't efficient. It's plain & simple logic.
A 1 to 1 merge aka the zipper merge is scientifically proven to be the best method. Just need everyone on the same page.
Letting 2 or more cars in 1 lane go then 1 from the 2nd lane isn't efficient. It's plain & simple logic.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 7:45 am to LSUBoo
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This, it doesn't help anything by getting over early, just merge when it's time to merge.
The idea is to MERGE with traffic not WAIT till the end when it looks like you aren't going to smoothly merge. If you are already decelerated to the speed of the through traffic, go ahead and merge.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 7:46 am to tigerbutt
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take turns with other drivers to safely and smoothly ease into the remaining lane
This is 'merica we don't do anything safely & smoothly, much less take turns.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 7:49 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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You use the whole lane when you need it to merge into the other lane at speed.
The idea of the merge lanes (acceleration or deceleration) is to obtain the speed of the through traffic. If you already got that speed and are halfway through the lane, move over when you can. Waiting is stupid only to just get to the end of the lane. What happens if you get to the end and you can't get in but could have before? You slow down traffic.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 7:49 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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If you are already decelerated to the speed of the through traffic, go ahead and merge.
On Juban Rd, coming off the interstate and heading north toward 190 right at Juban Crossing there is a merge and the traffic is pretty much sitting still or at a crawl from 4:30 to about 6:00 in the afternoons. In my mind, when traffic isn't moving, you need to get your arse in line like the rest of us...one of my biggest pet peeves is I'll be sitting in line for 5 minutes and somebody who just got off the interstate cuts 20 cars ahead of me.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:06 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Waiting until the very end causes a single point of "merge". You have one opportunity to get in. If there is an a-hole who doesn't leave you enough space, or you miss your chance for some reason, everyone has to hit their brakes to let you in. You just caused a traffic jam. Thinking that somehow utilizing two lanes as long as possible "helps" traffic is stupid. I don't care what links you provide, it's just not the case in reality as people will not allow it to work efficiently. There are multiple exits I take where traffic gets backed up for miles, but as soon as you get on the single lane exit bridge, you can fly. So it has nothing to do with being in a single lane, but instead the issue is with the point of merge. And the slow down point is not where people merged early (although they now are trapped behind the slowdown) , it is at the point where someone tried to get in at the last second and it propagates. There is a reason merge lanes are long. If you were supposed to merge at the last second, the lane would parallel the interstate until the very last second and the entrance would be quite small.
You can preach all day about a zipper merge, but you know for a fact that they do not ever work out that way in real life. Merge when you are up to speed and have the opportunity. I'm not saying that has to be right away, and sometimes it will be at the very end, but assuming that you should stay in the lane until the very end will cause problems if there is traffic. There is no doubt about it.
You can preach all day about a zipper merge, but you know for a fact that they do not ever work out that way in real life. Merge when you are up to speed and have the opportunity. I'm not saying that has to be right away, and sometimes it will be at the very end, but assuming that you should stay in the lane until the very end will cause problems if there is traffic. There is no doubt about it.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:18 am to tigerbutt
I hate merging when I leave California. We have so many cars on the road in CA that we have to get along. Zipper merges is the only way to go.
In CA, you worry about the car in front of you. The guy behind you has your rear. In other places, people seem hell-bent to keep you from merging in front of them. It's just a bad way to drive, and it messes up traffic.
In CA, you worry about the car in front of you. The guy behind you has your rear. In other places, people seem hell-bent to keep you from merging in front of them. It's just a bad way to drive, and it messes up traffic.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:23 am to Allyn McKeen
Zipper is quicker! Pretty much all of the tollways in Dallas are either zipper merge or as I like to call them dive bomb lanes because you pretty much get to about 75/80mph and hope there's a hole, because we all drive like assholes.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:25 am to Allyn McKeen
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In CA the guy behind you has your rear
Orly?
On a serious note, LA is full of a-hole drivers who refuse to do things the most efficient way possible. This thread is a great example - because everyone is an a-hole, we can't have nice things.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:26 am to KG6
pretty sure if you all just put the damn phone down and merge it would flow much better regardless of how/when you merge.
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