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Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:12 am
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:12 am
You are a doctor, and you are in charge of deciding who gets a liver transplant. You have two patients in need of a liver. 1, a 65 year old man in excellent health, or 2, a 22 year old woman with Hepatitis B and a history of IV drug use.

Who do you give the liver to?

(I’ve heard that this is a common medical school interview question.)

Edit: To clarify, the man needs a liver, but is in otherwise excellent condition.
This post was edited on 4/19/21 at 7:21 am
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
75242 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:12 am to
The mom is the doctor
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
22169 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:13 am to
The highest bidder.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32711 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:13 am to
Neither, you eat the liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.



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Posted by TDsngumbo
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Member since Oct 2011
41606 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:15 am to
22 year old with hepatitis since hepatitis affects the liver. A 65 year old in excellent health wouldn’t need a liver.
This post was edited on 4/19/21 at 7:16 am
Posted by BurrowLover19
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
134 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:16 am to
I’m going with the man. Older people have a special place in my heart.

Most everyone has a grandfather that they’d do anything to save.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150742 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:17 am to
Whoever is higher on the transplant list?
This post was edited on 4/19/21 at 7:18 am
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18285 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:18 am to
Is there a right or wrong answer? I'm giving it to the healthy 65yo because IV drugs are trashy and the 22yo will end up OD'ing on fentanyl anyway. Not the med school answer but I'm not a doctor.
Posted by pngtiger
Mobile
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:19 am to
Well the 65 year old isn’t in excellent health if he needs a liver transplant.

Does the 22yo still use drugs or alcohol? If so, she is not getting the liver.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:20 am to
I guess I should say, in excellent health except for the liver need.
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
12685 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:20 am to
Set up an elaborate game of hide and seek. Whichever patient finds the liver first, gets it.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:20 am to
I’m gonna need to see pics of the 22 year old.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:20 am to
Start with a good history and physical.

Did the girl quit using IV drugs five years ago? Is the man a closet drinker?
Posted by jrodLSUke
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22152 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:24 am to
10 chips, two bananas, 3 o’clock.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18769 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:26 am to
When dialysis was relatively new in the 60s, and there were just a few machines, Seattle had a "God Committee” of regular citizens who assessed applicants and decided the few who would get the life-saving treatment.

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Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
25639 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:30 am to
Depends where they are on the list.

But in a vacuum, you need more info on the drug use. Is he clean? If so how long? Liver transplants are pretty common with chronic Hep B so that isn't always disqualifying, it depends on the severity of the disease.

Second I would want to know why the liver failed in the man. They don't really just quit working in an otherwise healthy individual.

As stated the chances of the 22yo being disqualified are much higher than the 65yo.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:33 am to
quote:

dialysis


Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
8191 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:33 am to
A history of drug use doesn’t mean she uses drugs now - what if she’s clean now or has been clean for years?
Posted by Bawcephus
Member since Jul 2018
2747 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:38 am to
Sounds like one of those questions where the necessary info to make a "correct" decision isn't given, and the panel just wants you to pick one and defend it when challenged.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124227 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:42 am to
Give it to grandpa. The junkie is just gonna frick it up anyway
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