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re: Me and nearly $1,000 learned what’s up in changing a starter today
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:26 am to ConfusedHawgInMO
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:26 am to ConfusedHawgInMO
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When you buy a lifetime warranty starter it isn't better than the base model, you just pay for 2 right off the bat.
Correct. Unless you’re buying OEM, I don’t care if you get it from Amazon, AZ, Oreillys, or wherever. It’s all the same stuff. If you can wait a couple days, I always order online. Very few things I buy OEM, unless I know the aftermarket is junk.
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:26 am to USAFTiger42
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Get ready when those auto start/stop vehicles need to get their's repaired. The literal first thing I did was disconnect the on/off on the switchboard.
That’s not the parts that gonna get you on new cars. Wait til the fancy screen goes out.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:28 am to VetteGuy
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I couldn't believe Amazon was selling counterfeit sparkplugs, but they were.
It happens regularly. I changed a power steering pump on my old Tahoe 4 times, the first 3 were supposedly AC/Delco, bought at O'Reily's....fourth came from Auto Zone....there were drastically different in appearance. Mentioned it O'Reliys and they said they had an issue with fake and counterfielt parts.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:32 am to Meauxjeaux
I’ve heard that the “smart charging” system (alternator only starts charging after traveling 10+ miles) has led to a lot of failures in these vehicles. Why do car companies feel the need to dork with stuff that has worked for a literal century? Oh wait, I know.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:32 am to USAFTiger42
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Get ready when those auto start/stop vehicles need to get their's repaired.
I’ve install several disablers for people. It’s worth the $100.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:32 am to Dawgfanman
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Seen this several times from my old man as a young person
Same. Last time I suggested it to a co worker years ago on a late aughts Honda Accord and it worked. Not sure how long it worked for but gave her the ability to start saving to have it changed eventually.
Fricker was tucked in there though and had to reach down and was able to tap a small visible piece of it. Was enough though so made her happy. And good thing was she was in a position to put some things thru I needed done so helped expedite my stuff moving forward. Win-win
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:36 am to POTUS2024
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That is nuts for a starter.
Back in the day things such as starters and alternators could be repaired. But we are now in a throwaway society. A lot of repair shops that used to rebuild these components have shut the doors because of this.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:36 am to MrJudgeSmails
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I’ve heard that the “smart charging” system
They claim it for fuel efficiency. GM is big on this. Same as their AFM. I always recommend they buy a canned tuner and disable it or have it flashed off by a tuner. It literally saves you nothing…
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:43 am to AwgustaDawg
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Was Biden in office when Nissan designed the 2017 Armada?
Yep. Y62 production started in 2010, Biden was then in the office of Vice President. It wasn't sold in North America until 2017, replacing the old Titan based 1st gen Armada.
These are generally reliable and comfortable vehicles. I have one. It's awesome for what it is. Need to pull the trigger to lift it and do some bulletproofing (charging system, trans cooler, skidplates/sliders).
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:44 am to Meauxjeaux
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And since when does a starter last only 7 years.
just needs to last as long as the 84 month financing going around now........
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:50 am to USAFTiger42
Every time I'm at a red light near one of these new vehicles, I think about the damn starter going out. Not sure how anyone thought that exponentially increasing the number of start ups was not going to shorten the lifespan of certain parts.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:58 am to Dawgfanman
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That sux man. Something I learned young about a getting a starter to last a little longer, is to knock it some with a metal hammer. Apparently knocks the build up loose. At least works with older cars, but would think 2017 would have worked too. Seen this several times from my old man as a young person
Same here on those exposed starters on Ford and Chevys.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:34 am to Meauxjeaux
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Oh and thanks Nissan for putting the damn thing buried in the middle of the motor necessitating the removal of half of it to get to the starter. WTH.
toyota did this as well, it is under the intake manifold so the whole top of the engine must be removed just to get to the starter
some genius decided putting it inside the engine, keeps it clean, and away from the heat of the exhaust so it lasts longer
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And since when does a starter last only 7 years.
and its just a coincidence that it gets you just passed the 6 yr warranty periods, its not like its planned to fail and cost you nearly $1,000, but it is
also, most of those expensive starters now have rebuild kits made for them with new brushes and bearings in the kit. its easy to replace and once that is done its good as new again. once the starter is out and sitting on the bench so you can take it apart, its easy to replace those wearable parts
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:36 am to samson73103
quote:All of them are rebuilt and resold. That’s what the core charge is for, baw. Although OP linked a new one. And there are a few of these local alt/starter shops still around. Usually in the “old” part of town.
Back in the day things such as starters and alternators could be repaired. But we are now in a throwaway society. A lot of repair shops that used to rebuild these components have shut the doors because of this.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 9:37 am
Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:38 am to Meauxjeaux
Mid-90's Jaguar XJ6's had an alternator that was on the bottom driver's side of the engine bay. You had to shove the AC compressor and attachments aside, remove a smog pump, and thread it carefully up and out. There was a plate below the alternator so you could not take it out through the bottom. It was a huge pain in the butt.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:03 am to Meauxjeaux
what did the other $600 go towards?
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:16 am to POTUS2024
quote:On both the parts and labor
That is nuts for a starter.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:06 am to Tasseo
quote:what build up? that's not at all what is happening when banging it helps
Apparently knocks the build up loose
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:09 am to Tasseo
quote:once again, that's not what is happening.
Does AutoZone not have an option to return the old one for credit so they can rebuild and sell it?
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:56 am to keakar
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toyota did this as well, it is under the intake manifold so the whole top of the engine must be removed just to get to the starter
some genius decided putting it inside the engine, keeps it clean, and away from the heat of the exhaust so it lasts longer
Son's alternator went out on 2005 KIA Sportage...it was his high school can inherited from us. Thought it'd be a good learning experience for me to show him how its done. Alternator was in plan sight. and easy to get loose. Impossible to get out of the engine compartment. I tried everything. Took the passenger side wheel off, the quater panel, wheel well...damn thing would not clear the engine compartment. Put it all back together and called a KIA dealer in El Paso....service department....dude sent me a KIA service bulletin....first step? REMOVE ENGINE. Seriously, they suggesting pulling the engine. I took the motor mount off on the passenger side and jacked the engine up about 2 inches and managed to get the alternator out and back in. Remove the engine. Good lord....
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