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re: Mayor Broome, LSU President Alexander agree to work together to prevent second St. George
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:20 am to Topwater Trout
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:20 am to Topwater Trout
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I am waiting for NBR to secede from BR...anyone oppose this?
i don't give a shite. selling at the end of the summer and its sooo long BR. on the greener pastures
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:28 am to upgrayedd
Not going to happen. The City of BR has stretched itself thin enough on police and fire dept. resources in it's efforts to provide protection to the newly annexed areas of the Mall, Casino and hospitals. It's just too expensive.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:29 am to LSUBoo
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No, it's not. I've seen it, I've read it, that's not in there.
At least not in a word for word sense.
Yeah, looks like you're right. Not from the transition team, but their report doesn't read too differently from that.
A segment from the transition team report:
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The St. George movement traces its origins to the failure of the Baton Rouge community to embrace the ideal of Brown v. Board of Education in 1954. A unanimous Supreme Court held that state laws requiring racial segregation in public schools were unconstitutional: In the field of public education, the doctrine of separate but equal has no place.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:32 am to upgrayedd
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but their report doesn't read too differently from that.
It's more subtle, but yeah.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:32 am to MikeBRLA
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Just to clarify, SG isn't proposing to leave anything. The area in not in the city limits of BTR and will not change the city limits of BTR in any way.
Thxs, I amended my post, you are correctl SG isn't breaking off, it isn't leaving anything, it is just trying to form its own city as did BR once upon a time.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:36 am to TheArrogantCorndog
quote:Whites in BR are just living on a plantation; the fruits of their labor stolen for their masters. How sad. What a bunch of cucks.
Proposed St. George is NOT part of the shitty Baton Rouge community... we dont want anything to do with that shite hole of a city.. they just want our money
Viva la St. George
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:38 am to Nado Jenkins83
I live in the proposed St. George area.
My kids go to catholic school, as does probably 90% of the families in my large neighborhood Woodridge/Briarwood (some kind of private school), and i'd bet that number is the same for Santa Maria and the Country Club/Highland area neighborhoods.
These people are never going to send their kids to a public school here. The only way i'd even consider sending my kids to a public school, is if a scenario like this happened. a school, k-8 is built and only allows kids from Santa Maria, Woodridge, Briarwood, and the Country club, basically everything inside of Pecue/Airline/Highland. If I know only those kids could go to the school, i'd be open to sending my kids to that school. But this would be racist.
I honestly don't know what the point of St. George is. If it's schools, I just don't see the school system getting good enough for the people living in the neighborhoods I just said to send their kids to a public school. Schools are only as good as the families that attend them.
My kids go to catholic school, as does probably 90% of the families in my large neighborhood Woodridge/Briarwood (some kind of private school), and i'd bet that number is the same for Santa Maria and the Country Club/Highland area neighborhoods.
These people are never going to send their kids to a public school here. The only way i'd even consider sending my kids to a public school, is if a scenario like this happened. a school, k-8 is built and only allows kids from Santa Maria, Woodridge, Briarwood, and the Country club, basically everything inside of Pecue/Airline/Highland. If I know only those kids could go to the school, i'd be open to sending my kids to that school. But this would be racist.
I honestly don't know what the point of St. George is. If it's schools, I just don't see the school system getting good enough for the people living in the neighborhoods I just said to send their kids to a public school. Schools are only as good as the families that attend them.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:46 am to feedthepig20
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The people of St George built Baton Rouge, not the other way around.
This is completely arbitrary.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:48 am to doubleb
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Yes, and I was reluctant to get behind the SG petition at first because I really wanted the ISD and not so much a new city, but we were told that was the process to follow.
But now with all of the money grabbing first from Holden and now from Broome and all the racial stuff, I've become even more hard core for the city.
Even though I disagree with you I understand your frustrations and motivations. I'm also not sure how SG moved from a school based incorporation to a "anything is better than being in BR" incorporation.
Maybe the answer is really to think about the City-Parish form of government. If BR was its own city not affiliated with the parish St. George incorporation would be a moot point, or least would happen without the legal battles that I am sure are going to be a big part of this.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:51 am to upgrayedd
I'll ask again, because there needs to be clarification. What is the origin of this piece of paper?


Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:52 am to NOLALGD
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I'm also not sure how SG moved from a school based incorporation to a "anything is better than being in BR" incorporation.
I think the renewed, frothy-mouthed opposition is swaying more folks in SG.
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Maybe the answer is really to think about the City-Parish form of government. If BR was its own city not affiliated with the parish St. George incorporation would be a moot point, or least would happen without the legal battles that I am sure are going to be a big part of this.
Yeah, they need to have a mayor and a separate parish president.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:52 am to TeddyPadillac
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I honestly don't know what the point of St. George is. If it's schools, I just don't see the school system getting good enough for the people living in the neighborhoods I just said to send their kids to a public school.
See this is one of the big problems. It's not about schools. They say it's about education to get people drawn in but it's more about taxes and land.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:55 am to NOLALGD
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Maybe the answer is really to think about the City-Parish form of government. If BR was its own city not affiliated with the parish St. George incorporation would be a moot point, or least would happen without the legal battles that I am sure are going to be a big part of this.
Lafayette has a similar form of government with multiple towns.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:57 am to CajunTiger_225
so in what way are my taxes in St. George going to be used better?
looking at what I pay in property taxes, it just about all goes towards school/police/fire/BREC/stupid arse libraries.
So my new taxes will go to schools that I don't attend, same police, same fire, and a new recreation department?
looking at what I pay in property taxes, it just about all goes towards school/police/fire/BREC/stupid arse libraries.
So my new taxes will go to schools that I don't attend, same police, same fire, and a new recreation department?
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:59 am to TeddyPadillac
I think the library system and BREC are already parish-wide, so that shouldn't change at all.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:01 pm to TeddyPadillac
Let's think critically here. People with kids older than 10 will most likely not benefit from a new school system. Heck even parents with kids younger than that may not.
This is a progressive (not to be confused with the liberal connotation) movement that sets up the future of the St. George area to flourish. It is an investment into the future. So yes, a lot of people will not be directly impacted by this if it happens. But who knows maybe your grandkids will be?
This is a progressive (not to be confused with the liberal connotation) movement that sets up the future of the St. George area to flourish. It is an investment into the future. So yes, a lot of people will not be directly impacted by this if it happens. But who knows maybe your grandkids will be?
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:03 pm to TeddyPadillac
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looking at what I pay in property taxes, it just about all goes towards school/police/fire/BREC/stupid arse libraries
With SG
Taxes to schools go to the new ISD not the EBR system
BREC stay with BREC
Library stays with Library
EMS stays with EMS
Police no taxes to BRPD
Fire.. taxes still go to SGFD or East Side FD depending where you live, none goes to BRFD
Sheriff would get the same amount of taxes from you.
What other questions do you have?d still get the same amt. of your taxes
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:09 pm to doubleb
I assume SG would mainly use sales tax revenue for municipal finances to run the City? Is this currently how BR is setup?
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:10 pm to TeddyPadillac
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I live in the proposed St. George area. My kids go to catholic school, as does probably 90% of the families in my large neighborhood Woodridge/Briarwood (some kind of private school), and i'd bet that number is the same for Santa Maria and the Country Club/Highland area neighborhoods. These people are never going to send their kids to a public school here. The only way i'd even consider sending my kids to a public school, is if a scenario like this happened. a school, k-8 is built and only allows kids from Santa Maria, Woodridge, Briarwood, and the Country club, basically everything inside of Pecue/Airline/Highland. If I know only those kids could go to the school, i'd be open to sending my kids to that school. But this would be racist. I honestly don't know what the point of St. George is. If it's schools, I just don't see the school system getting good enough for the people living in the neighborhoods I just said to send their kids to a public school. Schools are only as good as the families that attend them.
I completely understand, SG would have to give you a reason to send your kids to their schools. They would have to prove their worth. If they couldn't then you'd stay where you are.
But look at what we have now. The EBR School System failed you and others. Many like you sucked it up, stayed in EBR and sacrificed your hard earned money and did what was right for your kids and sent them to private school.
But others couldn't do that. They either left the parish, or stayed put and watched their kids put up with a less than average school system unless of course they were fortunate enough to get into one of the excellent magnet schools in the parish.
SG might never be able to provide what CHS, Parkview, Episcopal or other private schools have done, but to families who can't afford those schools and who have children that aren't the best students, SG could be a great option, and who knows if one day the alternative SG public school system won't rival the private schools we now have?
ISD's flourish in Texas. They can flourish in EBR too. Just look at Central and Zachary, and if they do the parish will benefit as a whole because the growth in SG and higher property values will help all citizens of the parish.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:11 pm to NOLALGD
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I assume SG would mainly use sales tax revenue for municipal finances to run the City? Is this currently how BR is setup?
No
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